[Building Sakai] Web Services for Site removal.

Tue Oct 21 00:54:15 PDT 2014

Great.

What is partially implemented in Sakai 10.2?

I mean how the delete thing is working is 10.2!

Yours,

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<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Steve Swinsburg <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com> </div><div>Date:21/10/2014  08:16  (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: alaanizar <alaanizar at iihem.ac.ma> </div><div>Cc: sakai-dev <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>,Matthew Jones <matthew at longsight.com> </div><div>Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Web Services for Site removal. </div><div>
</div>Yes, for the tools that you want to have deleted, implement the interface and use the tools own API to delete the content for the site (if it exists). When the site is deleted it will call all implementors to do their thing.

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On 21/10/2014 2:40 AM, "Alaa NIZAR" <alaanizar at iihem.ac.ma> wrote:
When a semester ends up, how could schools remove all the contents of a site, as of Sakai 10.2.

We used to delete data in table directly as we were only offering announcements, schedule, resources, assignments and dropbox tools.

Given the three kinds of deletion features, how could we do it SAFELY, without touching tables directly?

Is that possible!

Yours,

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From: Matthew Jones
Date:20/10/2014 16:25 (GMT+00:00)
To: Alaa NIZAR
Cc: sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Web Services for Site removal.

Well, even with "soft delete" if you delete something twice it will delete it. However in many Sakai tools, if you delete something it doesn't delete the references to everything else. So there's kind of a 
- "soft delete" = mark for deletion (New feature for sites/content in 10) KNL-974/KNL-309
- "normal delete" - only delete that specific thing, typical Sakai behavior
- "hard/full delete" - which is meant to be delete that thing and everything related to that thing (partially implemented in 11 - KNL-1252)

Like if you remove a user from a site it doesn't remove all of the users forum posts and assignment submissions.
Or if you remove a site from the system, it doesn't remove all of the assignments and resources associated with the site. 

There's no referential integrity on the database between tables or enforced via deletion.

The idea for "hard delete" is that there could be, for schools that wanted it a way for when sites were deleted to really delete everything. 

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Alaa NIZAR <alaanizar at iihem.ac.ma> wrote:
Hi,

Soft delete does NOT remove the contents of the tools, then.
If I understand, the soft delete feature only removes the site from SAKAI_SITE, but leaves all the data related to that site in other tables. Then, the data is still there on the database and binary content also.

If yes, how the HARD DELETE feature will permita full deletion of all data and contents related to that sit, definitely?
I'm refering to this feature as of Sakai 11.

Yours,
Alaa Nizar

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-------- Original message --------
From: Matthew Jones
Date:20/10/2014 15:55 (GMT+00:00)
To: Alaa NIZAR
Cc: sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Web Services for Site removal.

There is a feature for "hard delete" only in 11, but it's not for contents (in resources) and I don't think there is a web service for it yet. You'd have to backport kernel code to get it. It's a generic interface so ideally other tools could also implement the hard delete but as of yet, no other tool has.

https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/KNL-1252

If you didn't want to write a backport and call this hardDelete(siteId) directly with a webservice, you could probably add a webservice with some of the code here to go through all the resources in a site and remove them, and any other tools you want. I haven't heard of anyone that has done that any other way.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Alaa NIZAR <alaanizar at iihem.ac.ma> wrote:
Hello,

How can we remove sites AND ALL its contents from sakai 10 using web services?

Thank you.

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