[Building Sakai] Email Template Service and Kernel

[Matthew Jones]

Yeah, that sounds good to me too. But that still leaves this patch. So I
guess your second point brings up the other decision. Do we revert the
SAK-24423 feature from 10, leaving it for 11 because of this problem or
leave it in there hoping that this ETS service has a resolution, which is
merged into 10 before the release?

I don't *think* it would be a lot of work but there's going to be minimally
pom changes across every tool that uses ETS, so maybe better left for 11.


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Kirschner, Beth <bkirschn at umich.edu> wrote:

> I think it's worthwhile to preserve the concept of a self-contained
> kernel. Adding ETS to the kernel, while keeping the tool outside of the
> kernel makes a lot of sense to me. That said, I'd think starting this work
> in the Sakai 10 branch would be a mistake.
>
> - Beth
>
> On Mar 14, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Matthew Jones <matthew at longsight.com> wrote:
>
> > There was an issue that came up that Matthew Buckett noticed that I
> think should have some more attention so I'm putting it out here for some
> feedback.
> >
> > https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/KNL-1202 - Kernel depends on email
> template service.
> >
> > The dependency came about from a commit in
> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-24423, this change is in Sakai
> 10 as it was in before the cut over. (qa03) We had a discussion on the past
> in https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/KNL-484 about whether or not ETS
> should be in kernel, with a few people agreeing. Though on this ticket
> Matthew looks to be in disagreement from the comments and believes that it
> should remain separate.
> >
> > Any opinions on this? I believe that if we did add ETS service to
> kernel, we'd still want the ETS tool to be left out, like how content is
> still partially outside of kernel. Otherwise it seems like only way to
> resolve this issue would be to revert
> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-24423 or rework that patch to
> not send notifications from the kernel (It's doing this in BaseSiteService).
> >
> > I don't know even how big a deal it is anymore for monolithic Sakai. Is
> there even an expectation that you should be able to build kernel without
> building everything else? I think maybe kernel should still be a special
> exception, though maybe not.
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