[Building Sakai] [Using Sakai] Sakai 10: options link renders differently in different browsers

[Adrian Fish]

I agree that your solution is the better one, Chuck. It is daft wasting a
row like that. Could you possibly do a rough outline of the kind of steps
that would need to be taken to bring other iframe tools into line? Maybe a
Confluence page? Is is something individual tool maintainers can deal with?
Or is it an infrastructural change behind the scenes?

Cheers,
Adrian.


On 17 July 2014 00:18, Charles Severance <csev at umich.edu> wrote:

> It would be a lot of work - this is how portlets have worked in Sakai
> since 2006.
>
> And honestly I tink that wasting that vertical space in the *iframe tool*
> is a bad mistake.
>
> It is not impossible - I would really rather not re-do this for Sakai-10
> since we have all new documentation and I don't want ot invalidate all that
> - but since Sakai-11 should have a 100% new skin top-to-bottom this might
> be something to consider.
>
> /Chuck
>
> On Jul 16, 2014, at 4:51 PM, Adrian Fish <adrian.r.fish at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I agree with Adam. It does seem inconsistent having the pencil in some
> tools and an options button for others. I know why it has turned out this
> way, but it would be good to have it normalised again. I'm guessing this
> would be quite a bit of work.
>
> Cheers,
> Adrian.
>
>
> On 16 July 2014 17:22, Adam Marshall <adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>>  I don’t mind whether it is inside or outside the frame, I just want it
>> to say “Options” and be top left (and not top right) like all the other
>> tools’ “Options” buttons.
>>
>>
>>
>> Call me old-fashioned if you will!
>>
>>
>>
>> An alternative approach would be to change the “Options” buttons on all
>> the other tools and convert them to a pen and pencil icon and place them at
>> the top right, but then the problem would arise as to what to do with all
>> the other ‘tool administration’ buttons that have been left behind.
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> ** Note change of email address to adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk **
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr A C Marshall, WebLearn Service Manager, University of Oxford.
>>
>> IT Services, 13 Banbury Rd, Oxford. OX2 6NN.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Charles Severance [mailto:csev at umich.edu]
>> *Sent:* 16 July 2014 17:17
>> *To:* Adam Marshall
>> *Cc:* Steve Swinsburg; sakai-user at sakaiproject.org; dev sakai
>> *Subject:* Re: [Using Sakai] [Building Sakai] Sakai 10: options link
>> renders differently in different browsers
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam - the problem is that the "Options" button is *inside* the iframe -
>> that was the major flaw in the web.content tool.   It led to frames within
>> frames within frames.
>>
>>
>>
>> It needed to be moved outside the tool content - and so while it is
>> inconsistent between portlets and old frame-based tools - it is consistent
>> across portlets.
>>
>>
>>
>> /Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 16, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Adam Marshall <adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>  Ah – ha. All browsers render as pencil and paper icon on QA server.
>> We’re running a slightly older version of Sakai 10. Soz about that.
>>
>>
>>
>> However, I still think it is a really bad design decision. The user will
>> not know that some tools are portlets and some not, why should they? Why
>> should they care?
>>
>>
>>
>> All that they will know for certain is that “the ‘Options’ link for Web
>> Content, Home and IMS LTI tools has vanished”.
>>
>>
>>
>> We either have to change all ‘Options’ and other ‘admin buttons to icons
>> and move them to the RHS of the tool, or we touch none of them.  It’s no
>> good adopting a random approach.
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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