[Building Sakai] Control number of users in Sakai sites

Wed Jul 9 06:03:36 PDT 2014

Hi,

Can you please make it configurable per site (OLD or NEW)!

Meaning that
we can modify this number in a given worksite if the need arise. A project A worksite, created and
got limited to 10 users, may require more users. thus, the need to modify the number of
participants for this site only.

Just like how quota works.

Thank you

Yours,
Alaa 

> Yeah! That is pretty sweet. If he is asking
you to open the Jira,
> perhaps he will find time to work on it. Fingers crossed.
> 
>> alaanizar at iihem.ac.ma <mailto:alaanizar at iihem.ac.ma>
>>
July 9, 2014 at 8:07 AM
>> Hello,
>>
>> I created a JIRA for this
issue: SAK-26624
>> <https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-26624>
>>
>> Thank you Steve, sooo much!
>>
>>
>>
Yours,
>> Alaa NIZAR
>>
>>
>>
>> > This
would be pretty simple to do if it was global configuration
>> like you
>>
> suggested in sakai properties. In the kernel a check could be added
>> before
>> > adding a user and throw a specific error if the limit had been reached.
>> > This should cover all cases of adding a user, site info, joining a site,
>> > profile site crwation and invitation, Web services, etc.
>> >
>> > The problem with doing it via webservices is that you would need to
>>
modify
>> > the various tools that can add users to sites.
>> >
>> > File a jira!
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
Steve
>> >
>> > sent from my mobile device
>> > On
09/07/2014 2:56 AM, "Alaa NIZAR" <alaanizar at iihem.ac.ma> wrote:
>>
>
>> >> Hi,
>> >> Definitely yes.
>> >>
>> >> A new feature will take more time and resources to be done.
>>
>>
>> >> I hope if there is a work around it.
>> >>
>> >> I thought of a new link tool, with php. The idea is to let the site
>> owner
>> >> add/remove participants through forms and webservices.
>> >>
>> >> The control with be done softly in php nothing to do
with sakai code at
>> >> all.
>> >>
>> >> What
do you think?
>> >>
>> >> Yours,
>> >> Alaa
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent from Samsung Mobile
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -------- Original message
--------
>> >>
>>
From: Neal Caidin
>> >>
Date:08/07/2014 16:51 (GMT+00:00)
>> >> To: alaanizar at iihem.ac.ma
>>
>> Cc: sakai-dev
>> >> Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Control number of
users in Sakai sites
>> >>
>> >> Hi Alaa,
>>
>>
>> >> To clarify, I believe you are hoping such a feature exists or
that
>> >> something relatively easy could be modified to create this
capability?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Neal
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> alaanizar at iihem.ac.ma
>> >> July 8, 2014 at 12:16 PM
>> >> Hi All,
>>
>>
>> >> We have a special use case that I want to share with you and try
to
>> find
>> >> solutions for it:
>> >>
>> >> I have normal project sites, that users can create by their own. Those
>> >> type of sites, and because they are available to anyone in the
>>
system to
>> >> create, can grow high. I want to limit the number of users in
this
>> type of
>> >> sites to a configurable number.
>>
>> Whereas online courses are created by the admin and the site owner can
>>
>> add/remove participants. Because those type of sites use
>> BigBlueButton
as
>> >> video conferencing solution, I want to limit the number of members
>> that the
>> >> site owner can add.
>> >> Yet, I want
Tutoring type of site to be limited to no more than 10
>> >> students.
>> >>
>> >> Ideally, I should be some configuration like this:
>> >>
>> >> max.participants.count=4
>> >>
max.participants.project=20
>> >> max.participants.course=50
>>
>> max.participants.onlinecourse=30
>> >> max.participants.tutoring=10
>> >>
>> >> This way, the number of users per site is shown on the
site setup tool,
>> >> while adding participants.
>> >>
>> >> This must be set by the sakai admin, with the possibility to change
>> it per
>> >> created site, just like how site quota works.
>> >>
>> >> Besides, we are not using any roster or student
systems.
>> >>
>> >> To put it simple, **It's a quota for site
members.**
>> >>
>> >> Yours,
>> >> Alaa
NIZAR
>> >>
>> >>
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>>
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>> Steve Swinsburg
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>> July 9, 2014 at 1:31 AM
>>
>> This would be pretty simple to do if it was global configuration like
>> you
suggested in sakai properties. In the kernel a check could be
>> added before adding a
user and throw a specific error if the limit had
>> been reached. This should cover all
cases of adding a user, site info,
>> joining a site, profile site crwation and
invitation, Web services,  etc.
>>
>> The problem with doing it via
webservices is that you would need to
>> modify the various tools that can add users to
sites.
>>
>> File a jira!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
Steve
>>
>> sent from my mobile device
>>
>> Alaa
NIZAR <mailto:alaanizar at iihem.ac.ma>
>> July 8, 2014 at 12:56 PM
>>
Hi,
>> Definitely yes.
>>
>> A new feature will take more time
and resources to be done.
>>
>> I hope if there is a work around it.
>>
>> I thought of a new link tool, with php. The idea is to let the site
>> owner add/remove participants through forms and webservices.
>>
>> The control with be done softly in php nothing to do with sakai code
>> at
all.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Yours,
>> Alaa
>>
>>
>> Sent from Samsung Mobile
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>>
From: Neal Caidin
<neal.caidin at apereo.org>
>> Date:08/07/2014 16:51 (GMT+00:00)
>> To:
alaanizar at iihem.ac.ma
>> Cc: sakai-dev <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Control number of users in Sakai sites
>>
>> Hi Alaa,
>>
>> To clarify, I believe you are hoping such a
feature exists or that
>> something relatively easy could be modified to create this
capability?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Neal
>>
>>
>> alaanizar at iihem.ac.ma July 8, 2014 at 12:16 PM
>> Hi All,
>>
>> We have a special use case that I want to share with you and try to
>> find
solutions for it:
>>
>> I have normal project sites, that users can create
by their own. Those
>> type of sites, and because they are available to anyone in the
system
>> to create, can grow high. I want to limit the number of users in this
>> type of sites to a configurable number.
>> Whereas online courses are
created by the admin and the site owner can
>> add/remove participants. Because those
type of sites use BigBlueButton
>> as video conferencing solution, I want to limit the
number of members
>> that the site owner can add.
>> Yet, I want Tutoring
type of site to be limited to no more than 10
>> students.
>>
>>
Ideally, I should be some configuration like this:
>>
>>
max.participants.count=4
>> max.participants.project=20
>>
max.participants.course=50
>> max.participants.onlinecourse=30
>>
max.participants.tutoring=10
>>
>> This way, the number of users per site is
shown on the site setup
>> tool, while adding participants.
>>
>>
This must be set by the sakai admin, with the possibility to change it
>> per created
site, just like how site quota works.
>>
>> Besides, we are not using any
roster or student systems.
>>
>> To put it simple, *It's a quota for site
members.*
>>
>> Yours,
>> Alaa NIZAR
>>
>>
> 
> --
> Neal Caidin
> Sakai Community Coordinator
> Apereo Foundation
> neal.caidin at apereo.org
> Skype me! (but let me know in
advance for the first interaction) - nealkdin
> 
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