[Building Sakai] Sakai 10 and Adminlite

Kurosch Petzold kurosch.petzold at fu-berlin.de
Tue Jul 8 07:57:30 PDT 2014


hey,

> I've actually never tried adding the admin workspace to the hierarchy and
> assigning non admins to it.  I would assume it works fine.  I would be
> worried about special tools that don't check for permissions and assume
> that it's an admin tool since it's in the admin workspace.  You don't need
> to worry about the "Become User" tool anymore since there are new checks
> in
> Sakai 10x to make sure the user is an actual admin user and not a DA user.
>  DA user's can be granted access to use the Become User tool only for
> users
> within their hierarchy access.  What are you wanting the user to have
> access to?

We would like the user to have read permissions for:
[] roster
[] users
[] usermembership

Best regards,
Kurosch





> -Bryan
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Kurosch Petzold <
> kurosch.petzold at fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>
>> Does this include the admin workspace?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Kurosch
>> >>We would like a Support role that basically is an admin with view
>> > permission only.
>> >
>> > This is what the Delegated Access tool was designed for.  Since you
>> have
>> a
>> > specific use case in mind, you should create a new realm and turn on
>> the
>> > view only permissions and turn off the edit/remove permissions.  Then
>> you
>> > can choose users who will get these permissions in any set or subset
>> of
>> > sites (including all sites).
>> >
>> > -Bryan
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Kurosch Petzold <
>> > kurosch.petzold at fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hey Neal,
>> >>
>> >> We would like a Support role that basically is an admin with view
>> >> permission only. By the way are there any plans to change the
>> >> administration setup from centralized security officers to
>> decentralized
>> >> role-based access control, i.e. implementing ARBAC[0];[1];
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> [0]
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://www.computer.org/cms/Computer.org/dl/mags/co/1996/02/figures/r20384.gif
>> >> [1]http://www.computer.org/csdl/mags/co/1996/02/r2038.html
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Kurosch Petzold
>> >> > Which functionality do you need that is not in Delegated Access?
>> >> >
>> >> > -- Neal
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Kurosch Petzold <mailto:kurosch.petzold at fu-berlin.de>
>> >> >> July 8, 2014 at 9:31 AM
>> >> >> Hi Neal,
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Have you looked at the Delegated Access tool, to see if that will
>> >> meet
>> >> >>> your needs?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/DAC/Delegated+Access+Tool
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I know it is not quite the same thing, but maybe enough of an
>> >> overlap?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> we checked the Delegated Access tool and we will be using it.
>> However
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> missing functionality would be appreciated by our administration
>> for
>> >> >> management and permission reasons.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>> Matthew Jones<mailto:matthew at longsight.com>
>> >> >>>> July 8, 2014 at 9:06 AM
>> >> >>>> That link didn't work for me? Was it this link?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/ADMX/Home
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> There is a note there that says it's unsupported since 2.8, but
>> >> should
>> >> >>>> work as the webservices haven't significantly changed, just
>> nothing
>> >> >>>> added/fixed. In Sakai 11, we plan to remove all the existing
>> axis
>> >> >>>> webservices in favor of CXF so that would break this tool. The
>> CXF
>> >> >>>> services are already available in Sakai 10 so they would be
>> >> preferred.
>> >> >> I was looking for adminlite support not adminX ;)
>> >> >> We do not want to use adminX because it is deprecated.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best regards,
>> >> >> Kurosch
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Neal Caidin <mailto:neal.caidin at apereo.org>
>> >> >> July 8, 2014 at 9:09 AM
>> >> >> Hi Kurosch,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Have you looked at the Delegated Access tool, to see if that will
>> >> meet
>> >> >> your needs?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/DAC/Delegated+Access+Tool
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I know it is not quite the same thing, but maybe enough of an
>> >> overlap?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheers,
>> >> >> Neal
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Matthew Jones <mailto:matthew at longsight.com>
>> >> >> July 8, 2014 at 9:06 AM
>> >> >> That link didn't work for me? Was it this link?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/ADMX/Home
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There is a note there that says it's unsupported since 2.8, but
>> >> should
>> >> >> work as the webservices haven't significantly changed, just
>> nothing
>> >> >> added/fixed. In Sakai 11, we plan to remove all the existing axis
>> >> >> webservices in favor of CXF so that would break this tool. The CXF
>> >> >> services are already available in Sakai 10 so they would be
>> >> preferred.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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>> >> >> Kurosch Petzold <mailto:kurosch.petzold at fu-berlin.de>
>> >> >> July 8, 2014 at 6:50 AM
>> >> >> Hey guys,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> just a question does the adminlite tool[1] by any chance be
>> updated
>> >> to
>> >> >> support Sakai 10 in the near future?
>> >> >> Or is this tool dead?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best regards,
>> >> >> Kurosch Petzold
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> [1] jira.sakaiproject.org/ADMX
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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>> >> --
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Kurosch Petzold
>> >>
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>> Best regards,
>> Kurosch Petzold
>>
>>
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Best regards,
Kurosch Petzold



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