[Building Sakai] Sakai 10 vast amounts of email generated moving content between sites

Mon Aug 25 09:15:32 PDT 2014

I think though discussing it that this fix brings up more of a question if
the previous behavior of not sending out emails when a file was copied from
another site was really incorrect behavior. This is considered a low
priority notifications, which students can opt out via their preferences.
But it technically is a new resource being added to their course site. I
can see not sending out a notification when a file was deleted, but this
was fixed. So I'm not so sure what the fix would be. I think the ideal
would be a UI selector where the instructor could change options either on
the action or on the entire collection about whether or not they want
notifications sent out, similar to dropbox, but that doesn't exist in the
regular resources case.

So maybe this is more of a mention in the release note than anything that
specifically is going to be fixed as there would be people on both sides. I
guess there *could* have just been a property around this, only way to
semi-please both sides. ;)

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Matthew Jones <matthew at longsight.com>
wrote:

> No, this isn't yet fixed. I looked at this a little more last week and the
> comments. The root cause looks like the fix on
>
> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-24432
>
> Where the issue was that no emails were going out before when they should
> have. The fix on SAK-24432 fixed for drop box email notifications going out
> and respecting preferences but looks like it caused the regressions where
> workflows that previously didn't send out any emails are now sending out
> emails.
>
> So it seems like the quick fix would be to revert SAK-24432 (revision
> 132940 in kernel), it sounds like the bigger fix would probably be as
> Matthew Buckett suggests, an extra parameter to the API so it knows when to
> do notifications but this would take a little more time and not be
> something that would go back to 10.0.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Omer A Piperdi <omer at rice.edu> wrote:
>
>>  One of our instructor copied 'Resources' from a site that he had used
>> before to a new site and 400 new resources emails was sent out...
>>
>> Did anyone solve this problem or is this still an issue?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Omer
>>
>> On 7/22/2014 8:17 AM, Matthew Jones wrote:
>>
>> Here looks like the ticket that describes what you're talking about
>>
>>  https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-26000
>>    - Sending when restoring (new feature for 10) was fixed in
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/KNL-1160
>>
>>  But it looks like the rest of this ticket was a regression against one
>> of the 10 qa's that was never fixed.
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-25936
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:05 AM, Roger Brown <roger.brown at uct.ac.za>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> If you go to Resources and "Copy Content from My Other Sites" an email
>>> is generated to users in the maintain role for each item copied.
>>>
>>> >From the catalina log for http://nightly2.sakaiproject.org:8081
>>> copying resources from one site to another.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-07-22 06:49:22,225  INFO Thread-24 org.sakaiproject.email.impl.BasicEmailService - sendToUsers: users: [Sakai Administrator<> joe soap<joe at soap.com> ] headers: [MIME-Version: 1.0, Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="======sakai-multi-part-boundary======", Subject: [ mercury site - New Resource ] twoColumn.xml, From: "10.x on HSQLDB"<no-reply at localhost>, To: "mercury site"<no-reply at localhost>] message:
>>> This message is for MIME-compliant mail readers.
>>>
>>> --======sakai-multi-part-boundary======
>>> Content-Type: text/plain
>>>
>>> A new resource has been added to the "mercury site" site at 10.x on HSQLDB (http://nightly2.sakaiproject.org:8081/portal
>>> )
>>>
>>> Location: site "mercury site" > Resources  > system > twoColumn.xml
>>>
>>> Description: twoColumn layout file
>>>
>>>
>>> Resource: twoColumn.xml http://nightly2.sakaiproject.org:8081/access/content/group/mercury/system/twoColumn..xml <http://nightly2.sakaiproject.org:8081/access/content/group/mercury/system/twoColumn.xml>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------
>>> This automatic notification message was sent by 10.x on HSQLDB (http://nightly2.sakaiproject.org:8081/portal) from the mercury site site.
>>> You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > Preferences.
>>>
>>> --======sakai-multi-part-boundary======
>>> Content-Type: text/html
>>>
>>> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
>>>     "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
>>> <html>  <head><title>[ mercury site - New Resource ] twoColumn.xml</title></head>  <body><p>A new resource has been added to the "mercury site" site at <a href="http://nightly2.sakaiproject.org:8081/portal">
>>>
>>>
>>> 10.x on HSQLDB</a>
>>> </p><p>
>>> Location: site "mercury site" > Resources  > system > <a href="http://nightly2..sakaiproject.org:8081/access/content/group/mercury/system/twoColumn.xml <http://nightly2.sakaiproject.org:8081/access/content/group/mercury/system/twoColumn.xml>">twoColumn.xml</a>
>>> </p><p>
>>> Description: twoColumn layout file
>>> </p><p>
>>> <hr/><br/>
>>> This automatic notification message was sent by 10.x on HSQLDB (<a href="http://nightly2.sakaiproject.org:8081/portal" >http://nightly2.sakaiproject.org:8081/portal</a>) from the mercury site site.<br/>
>>> You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > Preferences.</p>  </body></html>
>>>
>>> --======sakai-multi-part-boundary======--
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-07-22 06:49:22,410  INFO Thread-25 org.sakaiproject.email.impl.BasicEmailService - sendToUsers: users: [Sakai Administrator<> joe soap<joe at soap.com> ] headers: [MIME-Version: 1.0, Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="======sakai-multi-part-boundary======", Subject: [ mercury site - New Resource ] Simplehtml.jpg, From: "10.x on HSQLDB"<no-reply at localhost>, To: "mercury site"<no-reply at localhost>] message:
>>> This message is for MIME-compliant mail readers.
>>>
>>> --======sakai-multi-part-boundary======
>>> Content-Type: text/plain
>>>
>>> A new resource has been added to the "mercury site" site at 10.x on HSQLDB (http://nightly2.sakaiproject.org:8081/portal)
>>>
>>> Location: site "mercury site" > Resources  > system > Simplehtml.jpg
>>>
>>> Description: simpleRichText layout preview
>>>
>>> etc
>>> etc
>>> etc
>>>
>>> We are definitely seeing this in production deployment of sakai 10.
>>>
>>> I think this must be a bug because I can't see a configuration item for
>>> automatically sending email on the addition of COPIED content. No email
>>> sent out on the upload of a new resource.
>>>
>>> If it is configurable please let me know where the options is, else I'll
>>> open a JIRA.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Roger
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Roger Brown
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