[Building Sakai] [Using Sakai] Hidden Groups in Msgcntr

Adam Marshall adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk
Fri May 10 06:25:43 PDT 2013


What is a hidden group? I aint not never ever heard of it.

adam

From: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Holladay
Sent: 10 May 2013 14:02
To: Sakai Development (sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org); sakai-user; Wagner, Michelle R.
Subject: [Using Sakai] Hidden Groups in Msgcntr

https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/MSGCNTR-773

Michelle Wagner and I have been discussing this jira and how to correctly resolve it's functionality.  We've decided to field this out to the community to see if there are any other good points we haven't thought of.

Issues:

-A hidden group will show in the "From" field to all users, including user who shouldn't see hidden groups and are allowed to reply to that group.

Questions:

-Should we just for BCC's for hidden groups?
-Who should be able to view the hidden group name if it's in the "to" list?
-Should it be possible to reply all to the group?

Thoughts:

-If the instructor wanted to hide the group to the recipients, why doesn't she/he put the hidden group in the BCC field?  Do we want to remove this functionality and never allow hidden groups to be in the normal "To" field, or automatically move the hidden groups from the "To" field to the "Bcc" field?  Would it be confusing if the "To" field didn't have the hidden groups and you have to look for them in the "Bcc" field?  Or visa versa, that they end up getting sent as Bcc even though you selected "To".

-If we don't force the BCC, then do we need to scrub the hidden groups to something like "undisclosed recipients" to all users who can't see the hidden groups?  Do we restrict the reply-all for hidden groups?  Obviously, if you don't and a student replies to a hidden group, they will essentially be exposing themselves as a member of that group (probably unintentionally).

-Devil's advocate?  What if the instructor wants a group discussion?  Or other possible scenarios where you want to be able to reply.


We are leaning towards forcing the BCC, either automatically, or by removing it from the "To" field list.  This would also address all the "reply-all" and the "undisclosed recipients issue"

Any additional viewpoints would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Bryan
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