[Building Sakai] Groups automatically created by tools

[Daniel Merino]

Hi again.

I have searched through the code and it seems that these groups are 
created by Lessons. In the README file:

/There's one danger here: once we set the quiz or assignment to have a 
prerequisite, we create a special group, and add the user to it as he 
meets the prequisites. If the instructor goes into the tool, they'll see 
the assignment as being released to a special group named "Access: 
.....". if they modify the groups in the assignment, Lesson Builder's 
prerequisite system will no longer work properly. It is possible to 
change which groups can see an assignment, quiz or forum in Lesson 
Builder itself. Once an item has been added to Lesson Builder, it is 
best to adjust groups through the Lesson Builder "Edit". (This applies 
to Assignments, Tests and Quizzes / Samigo, and Forums. It does not 
apply to Mneme and jForum. Lesson Builder currently is not group-aware 
for those tools.)/

As all of these groups starts with "Access:" I think that I can disable 
them when needed. However, any tool that uses site.getGroups() will get 
these groups too, so it can be strange for users. I don't know if this 
can be a problem somewhere.

Thanks.
Best regards.

El 24/06/2013 12:45, Daniel Merino escribió:
> Thanks, Adam. We are not using Signup tool and we have not tested it
> neither (though is in the agenda).
>
> Best regards.
>
> El 24/06/2013 12:41, Adam Marshall escribió:
>> The Yale signup tool can create groups but only if you have the appropriate checkbox selected. Does that sound likely?
>>
>> adam
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Merino
>> Sent: 24 June 2013 11:39
>> To: sakai-dev
>> Subject: [Building Sakai] Groups automatically created by tools
>>
>> Hi everybody.
>>
>> Since we started with Sakai, we have used Section Info and have not made any use of Groups, because we thought that just one out of both tools was enough for us.
>>
>> Now I have found in our test server (with Sakai 2.9.2) several groups created without our knowledge.
>>
>> These groups have titles like "Access: <TOPIC>" where topic is the name of a forum topic or of an assignment.
>>
>> We are not sure about when these groups have been created or with which steps. We have tried to create new assignments and forum topics and that doesn't create groups right now.
>>
>> In our 2.7.1 production environment we don't have groups at SAKAI_SITE_GROUP that start with "Access:" string, so I think that this issue could be related to some 2.9 version (we have tested 2.9.0, 2.9.1 and currently 2.9.2).
>>
>> I'm worried by this issue because soon we are going to production with 2.9.2. I would like to know if somebody has seen this in their server and if it is solved.
>>
>> Please, help me and if you need more info, don't hesitate to tell me what do you need.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Best regards.
>> --
>> Daniel Merino Echeverría
>> daniel.merino at unavarra.es
>> Gestor de teleformación - Centro Superior de Innovación Educativa.
>> Tfno: 948-168489 - Universidad Pública de Navarra.
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Daniel Merino Echeverría
daniel.merino at unavarra.es
Gestor de teleformación - Centro Superior de Innovación Educativa.
Tfno: 948-168489 - Universidad Pública de Navarra.
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