[Building Sakai] SOLR vs Elastic Search

Adam Marshall adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk
Wed Feb 27 08:35:51 PST 2013


Ok will do.

adam

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From: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of John Bush
Sent: 27 February 2013 16:11
To: Matthew Jones
Cc: sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] SOLR vs Elastic Search

Right, so I think its on oxford then, if you guys have this done submit a patch and reopen the ticket, which is what I understood Aaron to be saying as well.

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Matthew Jones <matthew at longsight.com> wrote:
> Well it didn't appear from the ticket there was any code actually 
> available for the proxy mechanism to work (to switch implementations). 
> It sounded more like the ticket was asking for "someone else" to 
> create that mechanism. As Aaron said, if there's a patch, please re-open.
>
> I don't see anyone other than Oxford providing a patch unless they 
> really want SOLR and don't want to do the work to manually include it? 
> (Unless there really is a patch and I'm just not seeing it)
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:59 AM, John Bush <john.bush at rsmart.com> wrote:
>>
>> All we are talking about here is really just a spring proxy mechanism 
>> to select the search impl right?  Seems to me that is pretty 
>> straightforward, and I think oxford has already done it.  It makes 
>> sense to me to just get that committed.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Zhen Qian <zqian at umich.edu> wrote:
>> > Hi, Adam:
>> >
>> > I agree with your point of having shim layer on top of underlying 
>> > different search implementations. Elastic search is in svn now, can 
>> > Oxford checkin solr code as well?
>> >
>> > Meanwhile, do people think it is worthwhile to start a confluence 
>> > page to document feature/setup/cost/performance details of solr vs 
>> > elastic search implementations, which would serve as a guide to the 
>> > community?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > - Zhen
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Adam Marshall 
>> > <adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> May I ask why https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SRCH-99 has 
>> >> been closed?  This shim was to allow institutions to choose which 
>> >> underlying search technology they want to run: either solr or 
>> >> elastic search
>> >>
>> >> We have been running SOLR in production at Oxford for months now 
>> >> and are poised to commit the code back.
>> >>
>> >> After lots of development and moths of non-problematic use, the 
>> >> community should at least be at liberty to evaluate Elastic Search 
>> >> implementations against SOLR search and then come to a decision as 
>> >> to whether just one should be used or whether institutions will be 
>> >> allowed to make a choice as to which way they want to go.
>> >>
>> >> adam
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Dr A C Marshall, WebLearn Service Manager, IT Services, University 
>> >> of Oxford.
>> >>
>> >>
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