[Building Sakai] Resources read permission & uploading attachments

Adam Marshall adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk
Fri Nov 9 09:19:09 PST 2012


I agree that would help but would not allow people to actually remove read access and still have their site function correctly. It would improve the situation but not fix it.

adam

From: Bryan Holladay [mailto:holladay at longsight.com]
Sent: 09 November 2012 17:09
To: Adam Marshall
Cc: Sakai Development (sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org)
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Resources read permission & uploading attachments

I agree that this is confusing for Site owners.  We run into this issue every once in a while (not always forums).  Instead of adding 3 new permissions, a simpler fix would be to put up a warning on the main page of the resources tool that checks to see if the read permission is removed for students.  If so, the warn the instructor that other tool depend on this for the attachments feature to work and to suggest to the Instructor to go to Site Info -> Tool Order and hide the Resources tool instead.

-Bryan

On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Adam Marshall <adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk<mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk>> wrote:
We're had a bit of trouble here recently with the Forums tool. This is what happened

      1/ Site owner wanted to close off access to the Resources tool to students so they removed the "Read Resources" permission from students

      2/ Students then tried to upload an attachment in the Forums tool, they see an error page.

Now since we all have insider knowledge that attachments are stored in Resources in a sort of non-visible folder so we all know why the students saw an error. The site owner was totally mystified with good reason.

Indeed, why should removing read access to files in resources stop students being able to upload (and view) attachments?

Wouldn't it be better to have 3 more permissions in Resource:

   attachments.read
   attachments.new
   attachments.edit

these should control attachments NOT the 'content.*' permissions.

Goo? Bad? Or ugly?

Adam

--
Dr A C Marshall, WebLearn Service Manager, IT Services, University of Oxford.



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