[Building Sakai] Configure a role of instructor so that he just can update Site Info (course's syllabus) only

[Tin Nguyen]

Hi Steve, Raad,

It's ok now :). Thanks you so much!

Best regards,

Tin Nguyen.

2012/7/24 Steve Swinsburg <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>

> Hi,
>
> Set
> content.html.force.download=false
> In Sakai.properties
>
> Cheers,
> Steve
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 24/07/2012, at 10:11, Tin Nguyen <nguyentrongtin89 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Raad,
> Thanks for your advise. I have configured like you asked, I had created a
> file in Resource tool and make a link to it in "Site Info URL" but when I
> open course site, the browser always try to download that file. Have i done
> right all steps?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Tin Nguyen
>
>
>
> 2012/7/23 Raad Al-Rawi <Raad.Al-Rawi at admin.cam.ac.uk>
>
>> Hi Tin****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Ok, so if I understand correctly what you do is have a pre-defined
>> configuration for your course sites and give your Instructors limited
>> capabilities within those sites around the syllabus content. So presumably
>> you want them to be able to provide the course description on the home
>> page, which is why you are looking for “edit site information” permissions.
>> ****
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>> ** **
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>> If this is the only site-level information you want them to be able to
>> define, you could achieve this by using adding the resources tool in (it
>> can be hidden from students) and having a file in resources which you link
>> into the “Site Info URL” option of the “Site Information Display” tool on
>> the home page.****
>>
>> That way Instructors only need to edit the file in resources to change
>> the “Site Information” content, and you could set up a template course site
>> and use it to stamp out all your course sites with this configuration in
>> place (use “Duplicate Site” in Site Info).****
>>
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>> Does that make sense, and is it of any use?****
>>
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>> Best regards****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Raad****
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>> *From:* Tin Nguyen [mailto:nguyentrongtin89 at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* 23 July 2012 16:36
>> *To:* Raad Al-Rawi
>> *Cc:* sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org; Steve Swinsburg
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Building Sakai] Configure a role of instructor so that
>> he just can update Site Info (course's syllabus) only****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Hi Raad, ****
>>
>> Thanks for your answer. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Ok, I will tell you clearly the use-case of my university’s e-learning
>> system. In here, we have defined 4 difference user type are Admin (super
>> users), Education administration staff, Instructor and Student. ****
>>
>> ** **
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>> With admin:  they’re super users who can monitor and control all Sakai’s
>> functions. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> With education administration staff: their responsibility is to create,
>> modify and delete Site (course), User (student & instructor) and
>> Announcement. They also have a privilege to use Site Stat Admin to make
>> statistical reports. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Before talk about what Instructor and Student can do, I will tell you
>> which tools we make it visible for each course site. For each course site,
>> we had opened the following tools ****
>>
>> ·         Announcement****
>>
>> ·         Assignment****
>>
>> ·         SCORM player****
>>
>> ·         Module (contributed from Etudes)****
>>
>> ·         JForum (contributed from Etudes)****
>>
>> With instructor: they just have an enough functions to teach. They don’t
>> have privilege to add or delete any tool or any student to their course,
>> it’s a responsibility for Education Administration Staff, but they can edit
>> their course’ syllabus (what the course teach, and how to learn for the
>> course, etc…) ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> With student: they can read announcement, do assignment, play SCORM
>> package, view and download document from Module, join to forum to discuss.
>> It’s enough.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> The above is the use-case of my university. If you want to contribute
>> your idea or something is not clear, please ask me, I am very thanks for
>> that.****
>>
>> ** **
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>> Best regard,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Tin Nguyen****
>>
>> ** **
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>> 2012/7/23 Raad Al-Rawi <Raad.Al-Rawi at admin.cam.ac.uk>****
>>
>> Hi Tin****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> I think knowing your use case in more detail would help make a judgement
>> here – can you describe more precisely what your instructors need to do and
>> why?****
>>
>>  ****
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>>  ****
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>> Cheers****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Raad****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> *From:* sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:
>> sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Tin Nguyen
>> *Sent:* 21 July 2012 01:55
>> *To:* Steve Swinsburg
>> *Cc:* Raad Al-Rawi; sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org****
>>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Building Sakai] Configure a role of instructor so that
>> he just can update Site Info (course's syllabus) only****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Hi Raad, Steve, ****
>>
>> Thanks for your support. ****
>>
>> I have read the Jira issue SAK-7768. Do you think we should split
>> site.upd to other small functions? If we do this, we can more flexible
>> configure for site.upd and make it suitable for some situations (exp. my
>> request).****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Best regard, ****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Tin Nguyen****
>>
>> 2012/7/21 Steve Swinsburg <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>****
>>
>> Hi all,****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> This is Jira'd as:****
>>
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-7768****
>>
>>  ****
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>> cheers,****
>>
>> Steve****
>>
>>  ****
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>> On 21/07/2012, at 2:28 AM, Raad Al-Rawi wrote:****
>>
>>  ****
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>> Hi Tin****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> I’m afraid you are correct – the admin/maintain permissions are not that
>> fine-grained as to allow editing the site information but not editing the
>> tools. Unfortunately, in the code, the 2 functions are enabled by the same
>> permission (site.upd).****
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>> Best****
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>>  ****
>>
>> Raad****
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>>  ****
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>> *From:* Tin Nguyen [mailto:nguyentrongtin89 at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* 18 July 2012 16:13
>> *To:* Raad Al-Rawi
>> *Cc:* sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Building Sakai] Configure a role of instructor so that
>> he just can update Site Info (course's syllabus) only****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Hi Raad, ****
>>
>> Thanks for your answer. ****
>>
>> The thing I want is the instructor just only have privilege to edit Site
>> Information, not have privilege to control other functions (add user to
>> site, add tools, ...). If I configure the role of instructor with site.upd,
>> he not only can modify site's title/description but also can add more tools
>>  and can do some other functions. Can I configure Sakai to do this? ****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Best Regards, ****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Tin Nguyen****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> p/s: i have read Permission Definitions in Sakai here
>> https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/DOC/Permission+Definitions+in+Sakai+2.5 and
>> I don't see any strategy to configure the instructor's role like i want.
>> ****
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>>  ****
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>> 2012/7/18 Raad Al-Rawi <Raad.Al-Rawi at admin.cam.ac.uk>****
>>
>> Hi Tin****
>>
>>  ****
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>> There is more than 1 permission that controls the various admin
>> functions, e.g. site.upd allows them to change the site configuration (edit
>> title/description, edit tools etc.) but won’t let them amend membership
>> (that’s controlled by the site.upd.site.mbrshp permission)****
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>> What things do you want them to be able to do in Site Info?****
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>> Best regards****
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>> Raad****
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>> *From:* sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:
>> sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Tin Nguyen
>> *Sent:* 18 July 2012 14:47
>> *To:* sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> *Subject:* [Building Sakai] Configure a role of instructor so that he
>> just can update Site Info (course's syllabus) only****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I have a question is can we configure a role of instructor so that the
>> instructor just can update Site Info (in our university, it's course's
>> syllabus) only?
>> If we can't configure, is there another tool to use?
>>
>> Please help me,
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tin Nguyen****
>>
>>
>>
>> ****
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