[Building Sakai] Configure a role of instructor so that he just can update Site Info (course's syllabus) only

Mon Jul 23 17:11:23 PDT 2012

Hi Raad,
Thanks for your advise. I have configured like you asked, I had created a
file in Resource tool and make a link to it in "Site Info URL" but when I
open course site, the browser always try to download that file. Have i done
right all steps?

Best regards,

Tin Nguyen

2012/7/23 Raad Al-Rawi <Raad.Al-Rawi at admin.cam.ac.uk>

> Hi Tin****
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> Ok, so if I understand correctly what you do is have a pre-defined
> configuration for your course sites and give your Instructors limited
> capabilities within those sites around the syllabus content. So presumably
> you want them to be able to provide the course description on the home
> page, which is why you are looking for “edit site information” permissions.
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> If this is the only site-level information you want them to be able to
> define, you could achieve this by using adding the resources tool in (it
> can be hidden from students) and having a file in resources which you link
> into the “Site Info URL” option of the “Site Information Display” tool on
> the home page.****
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> That way Instructors only need to edit the file in resources to change the
> “Site Information” content, and you could set up a template course site and
> use it to stamp out all your course sites with this configuration in place
> (use “Duplicate Site” in Site Info).****
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> Does that make sense, and is it of any use?****
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> Best regards****
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> Raad****
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> *From:* Tin Nguyen [mailto:nguyentrongtin89 at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 23 July 2012 16:36
> *To:* Raad Al-Rawi
> *Cc:* sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org; Steve Swinsburg
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Building Sakai] Configure a role of instructor so that he
> just can update Site Info (course's syllabus) only****
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> Hi Raad, ****
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> Thanks for your answer. ****
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> Ok, I will tell you clearly the use-case of my university’s e-learning
> system. In here, we have defined 4 difference user type are Admin (super
> users), Education administration staff, Instructor and Student. ****
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> With admin:  they’re super users who can monitor and control all Sakai’s
> functions. ****
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> With education administration staff: their responsibility is to create,
> modify and delete Site (course), User (student & instructor) and
> Announcement. They also have a privilege to use Site Stat Admin to make
> statistical reports. ****
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> Before talk about what Instructor and Student can do, I will tell you
> which tools we make it visible for each course site. For each course site,
> we had opened the following tools ****
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> ·         Announcement****
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> ·         Assignment****
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> ·         SCORM player****
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> ·         Module (contributed from Etudes)****
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> ·         JForum (contributed from Etudes)****
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> With instructor: they just have an enough functions to teach. They don’t
> have privilege to add or delete any tool or any student to their course,
> it’s a responsibility for Education Administration Staff, but they can edit
> their course’ syllabus (what the course teach, and how to learn for the
> course, etc…) ****
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> With student: they can read announcement, do assignment, play SCORM
> package, view and download document from Module, join to forum to discuss.
> It’s enough.****
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> The above is the use-case of my university. If you want to contribute your
> idea or something is not clear, please ask me, I am very thanks for that.*
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> Best regard,****
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> Tin Nguyen****
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> 2012/7/23 Raad Al-Rawi <Raad.Al-Rawi at admin.cam.ac.uk>****
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> Hi Tin****
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> I think knowing your use case in more detail would help make a judgement
> here – can you describe more precisely what your instructors need to do and
> why?****
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> Cheers****
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> Raad****
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> *From:* sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:
> sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Tin Nguyen
> *Sent:* 21 July 2012 01:55
> *To:* Steve Swinsburg
> *Cc:* Raad Al-Rawi; sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org****
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Building Sakai] Configure a role of instructor so that he
> just can update Site Info (course's syllabus) only****
>
>  ****
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> Hi Raad, Steve, ****
>
> Thanks for your support. ****
>
> I have read the Jira issue SAK-7768. Do you think we should split site.upd
> to other small functions? If we do this, we can more flexible configure for
> site.upd and make it suitable for some situations (exp. my request).****
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> Best regard, ****
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> Tin Nguyen****
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> 2012/7/21 Steve Swinsburg <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>****
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> Hi all,****
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> This is Jira'd as:****
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> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-7768****
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> cheers,****
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> Steve****
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> On 21/07/2012, at 2:28 AM, Raad Al-Rawi wrote:****
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> Hi Tin****
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> I’m afraid you are correct – the admin/maintain permissions are not that
> fine-grained as to allow editing the site information but not editing the
> tools. Unfortunately, in the code, the 2 functions are enabled by the same
> permission (site.upd).****
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> Best****
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> Raad****
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> *From:* Tin Nguyen [mailto:nguyentrongtin89 at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 18 July 2012 16:13
> *To:* Raad Al-Rawi
> *Cc:* sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Building Sakai] Configure a role of instructor so that he
> just can update Site Info (course's syllabus) only****
>
>  ****
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> Hi Raad, ****
>
> Thanks for your answer. ****
>
> The thing I want is the instructor just only have privilege to edit Site
> Information, not have privilege to control other functions (add user to
> site, add tools, ...). If I configure the role of instructor with site.upd,
> he not only can modify site's title/description but also can add more tools
>  and can do some other functions. Can I configure Sakai to do this? ****
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> Best Regards, ****
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> Tin Nguyen****
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> p/s: i have read Permission Definitions in Sakai here
> https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/DOC/Permission+Definitions+in+Sakai+2.5 and
> I don't see any strategy to configure the instructor's role like i want. *
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> 2012/7/18 Raad Al-Rawi <Raad.Al-Rawi at admin.cam.ac.uk>****
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> Hi Tin****
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> There is more than 1 permission that controls the various admin functions,
> e.g. site.upd allows them to change the site configuration (edit
> title/description, edit tools etc.) but won’t let them amend membership
> (that’s controlled by the site.upd.site.mbrshp permission)****
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> What things do you want them to be able to do in Site Info?****
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> Best regards****
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> Raad****
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> *From:* sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:
> sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Tin Nguyen
> *Sent:* 18 July 2012 14:47
> *To:* sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
> *Subject:* [Building Sakai] Configure a role of instructor so that he
> just can update Site Info (course's syllabus) only****
>
>  ****
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> Hi all,
> I have a question is can we configure a role of instructor so that the
> instructor just can update Site Info (in our university, it's course's
> syllabus) only?
> If we can't configure, is there another tool to use?
>
> Please help me,
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tin Nguyen****
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