[Building Sakai] sakai-dev Digest, Vol 36, Issue 28

Naim Syed nsyed at ccsnh.edu
Wed Feb 29 13:51:42 PST 2012


Currently working on Sakai integration with uPortal and Kauli for my University. I am running into some issues and interested if an expert can do consulting for me. It can an opportunity for 'moonlighting' or consulting.

Nick
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Chrome and samigo assessment time? (Joshua Swink)
   2. Re: Gradebook Entity Provider in 2.8 (Gross,Christopher)
   3. Re: Chrome and samigo assessment time? (Karen Tsao)
   4. Re: Chrome and samigo assessment time? (Joshua Swink)
   5. Re: CKEditor for Sakai 2.7.x? (Kevin Chan)
   6. presenceService...how to use it ? (David Wafula)
   7. Re: presenceService...how to use it ? (Aaron Zeckoski)
   8. Re: Kernel (Nkululeko Phakela)
   9. Re: presenceService...how to use it ? (David Wafula)
  10. auto-provisioning of accounts? (Michael Dunlap)
  11. Re: auto-provisioning of accounts? (Nicolaas Matthijs)
  12. Re: TurnItIn & Assignment2 (Vicky Crowley)
  13.  Sakai and Gmail Integration (ali jan)
  14. Re: Sakai and Gmail Integration (Kevin P. Foote)
  15. Re: Sakai and Gmail Integration (ali jan)
  16. Re: Sakai and Gmail Integration (Matthew Jones)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:31:16 -0800
From: Joshua Swink <joshua.swink at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Chrome and samigo assessment time?
To: Karen Tsao <ktsao at stanford.edu>
Cc: "sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org"
        <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>,    David Minugh
        <David.Minugh at english.su.se>
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On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Karen Tsao <ktsao at stanford.edu> wrote:

> Hi Josh,
>
> Here is what I understand from your previous email:
>
> Your exam is a two hour timed exam. The student exited in the middle and
> came back after some break. When she got back, she saw 30 min left from the
> Samigo timer bar.
>
> Now I have couple of questions here.




> How much time difference between she left the exam and retake the exam?


About 1 minute.


> Did she log out of Sakai? If yes, did she log back in to a different
> server?


No.


> Also, can you please explain what do you mean by "According to the server,
> she still had an hour left, not 30 minutes, when she restarted her
> browser."? Does your "server" refer to the database record?


Yes, at the time her browser shut down and restarted, she had one hour left
on the exam, according to Sakai. I determined this by looking at the start
time of the assessment as recorded in the database.


> And what do you mean by "the browser was shut down for no more than 1
> minute."? I thought she submitted the exam after 30 min?
>

Let me describe the timeline.

4:00 PM Student starts a two-hour timed exam
5:00 PM Browser shows one hour left. Then the browser shuts down for
whatever reason
5:01 PM The browser is restarted. The browser shows 30 minutes left on exam
(incorrectly)
5:30 PM Student submits exam, thinking that time is up (incorrectly)

By the way, can you please let me know what Samigo version you use?
>

I'm not 100% sure, it's the version that comes with Sakai 2.7.1.

Josh


>
> Thanks,
> Karen
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Joshua Swink <joshua.swink at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> In the case I am describing, the browser was shut down for no more than 1
>> minute.
>>
>> Josh
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Karen Tsao <ktsao at stanford.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> This is the expected behavior. The timer will keep counting down even if
>>> the network is down because there is no way we can tell if the student left
>>> the test on their own, or if the network went down. If students have
>>> shorter time because of the network or other uncontrollable issues, the
>>> instructor can give them a chance to retake the assessment.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Karen
>>>
>>>  On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 3:14 AM, David Minugh <
>>> David.Minugh at english.su.se> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I believe we saw a similar situation with Firefox when we ran a timed
>>>> diagnostic test in SAKAI, using the T&Q function. The net went down, and
>>>> when it was up again after half an hour or so, the students' timers
>>>> indicated that that half-hour had been counted, so they got a shorter time
>>>> for the test. Unfortunately, I don't know what the server(s) recorded.
>>>>   At any rate, the expected behavior would be for the student test time
>>>> to be extended accordingly, although I don't know how you'd solve it
>>>> technically.
>>>>
>>>> David C. Minugh
>>>>       E-mail: David.Minugh at english.su.se
>>>> Director of Studies
>>>>              Tel: (+46) 8 16 36 11
>>>> English Department
>>>>              Cell phone: (+46) 70 - 23 14 777
>>>> Stockholm University
>>>>         Office: E 877, Frescati
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:
>>>> sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Swink
>>>> Sent: den 24 februari 2012 22:19
>>>> To: Sakai-Dev
>>>> Subject: [Building Sakai] Chrome and samigo assessment time?
>>>>
>>>> We had a student whose browser, Chrome, shut down for whatever reason
>>>> about one hour into a two-hour timed exam in Samigo. When she restarted it
>>>> and went back to the exam, it showed only about half an hour remaining. It
>>>> should have shown one hour remaining. She took a screen shot, which showed
>>>> the timer remaining at that point, and also her computer's clock (which
>>>> showed the correct time of day). She submitted the exam when the timer ran
>>>> out, missing out on about 30 minutes of test time.
>>>>
>>>> According to the server, she still had an hour left, not 30 minutes,
>>>> when she restarted her browser. So I'm wondering if this might be a problem
>>>> with Chrome, or has this sort of thing happened with other browsers?
>>>>
>>>> Josh
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> sakai-dev mailing list
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>>>
>>>
>>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:02:13 +0000
From: "Gross,Christopher" <ufchrisg at ufl.edu>
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Gradebook Entity Provider in 2.8
To: Aaron Zeckoski <azeckoski at unicon.net>, Steve Swinsburg
        <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>
Cc: "sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org"
        <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
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I found something interesting.

Following these steps:

1) Grab gradebook 2.8.1 and 2.8.x
2) diff app/sakai-tool/src/webapp/WEB-INF/applicationContext.xml of both
versions
        These files are the same.
3) mvn clean install inside the app/sakai-tool directory
4) diff
{2.8.1}/app/sakai-tool/target/sakai-gradebook-tool-2.8.1/WEB-INF/applicatio
nContext.xml with
{2.8.x}/app/sakai-tool/target/sakai-gradebook-tool-2.8-SNAPSHOT/WEB-INF/app
licationContext.xml
        These files are different.  The version for 2.8-SNAPSHOT is the same as
the versions in app/sakai-tool/src/webapp/WEB-INF; the 2.8.1 version is
the same as the applicationContext.xml that can be found in
app/ui/src/webapp/WEB-INF


-Chris


The applicationContext.xml in gradebook/app/sakai-tool/src/webapp/WEB-INF
is the same in both 2.8.1 and 2.8.x.

On 2/28/12 10:41 AM, "Christopher Gross" <ufchrisg at ufl.edu> wrote:

>Still looking, but so far I cannot find what is different between the
>2.8.1 tag and the 2.8.x branch that has caused this.  No errors and no
>change in the bean definition for the gradebook entity provider or any of
>the gradebook bean definitions for that matter.  However, placing the
>gradebook tool war (and just the war) for 2.8.1 in a 2.8.x instance
>corrects the issue.
>
>-Chris
>
>On 2/22/12 8:07 PM, "Aaron Zeckoski" <azeckoski at unicon.net> wrote:
>
>>It's not showing up in the nightly 2.8 or trunk instance either. It
>>seems like maybe something is going on.
>>-AZ
>>
>>
>>On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Steve Swinsburg
>><steve.swinsburg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>> We have it in our 2.8 instance:
>>> https://alliance.anu.edu.au/direct/describe
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23/02/2012, at 10:30 AM, Gross,Christopher wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> Does anyone else notice that the gradebook entity provider is not
>>>appearing
>>> in 2.8? Going to /direct/describe on a 2.8 instance of sakai shows the
>>> registered providers, and gradebook is not one of them. Doing the same
>>>on a
>>> 2.7 instance of sakai does show gradebook as a registered provider. I
>>>did
>>> not see anything in the 2.8 release notes that would suggest this
>>>should be
>>> expected. I ask this because assignment2 attempts to access it and,
>>>since it
>>> is not there in 2.8, returns a 501 (not implemented) error.  I see the
>>>bean
>>> definition in applicationContext.xml and do not see any errors in
>>> catalina.out ? in fact, there is nothing appearing in catalina.out when
>>>I
>>> grep for "GradebookEntityProvider" whereas I see the init() and
>>>destroy()
>>> calls in the log for a 2.7 instance.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Gross
>>> University of Florida
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>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Aaron Zeckoski - Software Architect - http://tinyurl.com/azprofile
>


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:08:14 -0800
From: Karen Tsao <ktsao at stanford.edu>
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Chrome and samigo assessment time?
To: Joshua Swink <joshua.swink at gmail.com>
Cc: "sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org"
        <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>,    David Minugh
        <David.Minugh at english.su.se>
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Do you have multiple servers? We fixed a timed assessment issue related to
user takes assessment in different server (
https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAM-1184). Is it possible for you to
see if she logs back to a different server?

Thanks,
Karen

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Joshua Swink <joshua.swink at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Karen Tsao <ktsao at stanford.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hi Josh,
>>
>> Here is what I understand from your previous email:
>>
>> Your exam is a two hour timed exam. The student exited in the middle and
>> came back after some break. When she got back, she saw 30 min left from the
>> Samigo timer bar.
>>
>> Now I have couple of questions here.
>
>
>
>
>> How much time difference between she left the exam and retake the exam?
>
>
> About 1 minute.
>
>
>> Did she log out of Sakai? If yes, did she log back in to a different
>> server?
>
>
> No.
>
>
>> Also, can you please explain what do you mean by "According to the
>> server, she still had an hour left, not 30 minutes, when she restarted her
>> browser."? Does your "server" refer to the database record?
>
>
> Yes, at the time her browser shut down and restarted, she had one hour
> left on the exam, according to Sakai. I determined this by looking at the
> start time of the assessment as recorded in the database.
>
>
>> And what do you mean by "the browser was shut down for no more than 1
>> minute."? I thought she submitted the exam after 30 min?
>>
>
> Let me describe the timeline.
>
> 4:00 PM Student starts a two-hour timed exam
> 5:00 PM Browser shows one hour left. Then the browser shuts down for
> whatever reason
> 5:01 PM The browser is restarted. The browser shows 30 minutes left on
> exam (incorrectly)
> 5:30 PM Student submits exam, thinking that time is up (incorrectly)
>
> By the way, can you please let me know what Samigo version you use?
>>
>
> I'm not 100% sure, it's the version that comes with Sakai 2.7.1.
>
> Josh
>
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Karen
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Joshua Swink <joshua.swink at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> In the case I am describing, the browser was shut down for no more than
>>> 1 minute.
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Karen Tsao <ktsao at stanford.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi David,
>>>>
>>>> This is the expected behavior. The timer will keep counting down even
>>>> if the network is down because there is no way we can tell if the student
>>>> left the test on their own, or if the network went down. If students have
>>>> shorter time because of the network or other uncontrollable issues, the
>>>> instructor can give them a chance to retake the assessment.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Karen
>>>>
>>>>  On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 3:14 AM, David Minugh <
>>>> David.Minugh at english.su.se> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  I believe we saw a similar situation with Firefox when we ran a timed
>>>>> diagnostic test in SAKAI, using the T&Q function. The net went down, and
>>>>> when it was up again after half an hour or so, the students' timers
>>>>> indicated that that half-hour had been counted, so they got a shorter time
>>>>> for the test. Unfortunately, I don't know what the server(s) recorded.
>>>>>   At any rate, the expected behavior would be for the student test
>>>>> time to be extended accordingly, although I don't know how you'd solve it
>>>>> technically.
>>>>>
>>>>> David C. Minugh
>>>>>         E-mail: David.Minugh at english.su.se
>>>>> Director of Studies
>>>>>                Tel: (+46) 8 16 36 11
>>>>> English Department
>>>>>              Cell phone: (+46) 70 - 23 14 777
>>>>> Stockholm University
>>>>>         Office: E 877, Frescati
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:
>>>>> sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Swink
>>>>> Sent: den 24 februari 2012 22:19
>>>>> To: Sakai-Dev
>>>>> Subject: [Building Sakai] Chrome and samigo assessment time?
>>>>>
>>>>> We had a student whose browser, Chrome, shut down for whatever reason
>>>>> about one hour into a two-hour timed exam in Samigo. When she restarted it
>>>>> and went back to the exam, it showed only about half an hour remaining. It
>>>>> should have shown one hour remaining. She took a screen shot, which showed
>>>>> the timer remaining at that point, and also her computer's clock (which
>>>>> showed the correct time of day). She submitted the exam when the timer ran
>>>>> out, missing out on about 30 minutes of test time.
>>>>>
>>>>> According to the server, she still had an hour left, not 30 minutes,
>>>>> when she restarted her browser. So I'm wondering if this might be a problem
>>>>> with Chrome, or has this sort of thing happened with other browsers?
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> sakai-dev mailing list
>>>>> sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev
>>>>>
>>>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send email to
>>>>> sakai-dev-unsubscribe at collab.sakaiproject.org with a subject of
>>>>> "unsubscribe"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 14:16:59 -0800
From: Joshua Swink <joshua.swink at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Chrome and samigo assessment time?
To: Karen Tsao <ktsao at stanford.edu>
Cc: "sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org"
        <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>,    David Minugh
        <David.Minugh at english.su.se>
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        <CAFS8oBTQN-dqoixL7DKGPxQ8KbAsmfpDOi9qBB_zBZ5-4wmN4Q at mail.gmail.com>
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We do have multiple servers. The issue in the ticket doesn't seem to match,
though, because the student started well before the due time, and the test
would be over before the due date. Also, the ticket says "The error is
equal to the difference in time between when you started the first time and
the second time." This difference, for the student, was 60 minutes, whereas
the error was about 30 minutes.

Josh

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Karen Tsao <ktsao at stanford.edu> wrote:

> Do you have multiple servers? We fixed a timed assessment issue related to
> user takes assessment in different server (
> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAM-1184). Is it possible for you to
> see if she logs back to a different server?
>
> Thanks,
> Karen
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Joshua Swink <joshua.swink at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Karen Tsao <ktsao at stanford.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Josh,
>>>
>>> Here is what I understand from your previous email:
>>>
>>> Your exam is a two hour timed exam. The student exited in the middle and
>>> came back after some break. When she got back, she saw 30 min left from the
>>> Samigo timer bar.
>>>
>>> Now I have couple of questions here.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> How much time difference between she left the exam and retake the exam?
>>
>>
>> About 1 minute.
>>
>>
>>> Did she log out of Sakai? If yes, did she log back in to a different
>>> server?
>>
>>
>> No.
>>
>>
>>> Also, can you please explain what do you mean by "According to the
>>> server, she still had an hour left, not 30 minutes, when she restarted her
>>> browser."? Does your "server" refer to the database record?
>>
>>
>> Yes, at the time her browser shut down and restarted, she had one hour
>> left on the exam, according to Sakai. I determined this by looking at the
>> start time of the assessment as recorded in the database.
>>
>>
>>> And what do you mean by "the browser was shut down for no more than 1
>>> minute."? I thought she submitted the exam after 30 min?
>>>
>>
>> Let me describe the timeline.
>>
>> 4:00 PM Student starts a two-hour timed exam
>> 5:00 PM Browser shows one hour left. Then the browser shuts down for
>> whatever reason
>> 5:01 PM The browser is restarted. The browser shows 30 minutes left on
>> exam (incorrectly)
>> 5:30 PM Student submits exam, thinking that time is up (incorrectly)
>>
>> By the way, can you please let me know what Samigo version you use?
>>>
>>
>> I'm not 100% sure, it's the version that comes with Sakai 2.7.1.
>>
>> Josh
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Karen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Joshua Swink <joshua.swink at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> In the case I am describing, the browser was shut down for no more than
>>>> 1 minute.
>>>>
>>>> Josh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Karen Tsao <ktsao at stanford.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the expected behavior. The timer will keep counting down even
>>>>> if the network is down because there is no way we can tell if the student
>>>>> left the test on their own, or if the network went down. If students have
>>>>> shorter time because of the network or other uncontrollable issues, the
>>>>> instructor can give them a chance to retake the assessment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Karen
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 3:14 AM, David Minugh <
>>>>> David.Minugh at english.su.se> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  I believe we saw a similar situation with Firefox when we ran a
>>>>>> timed diagnostic test in SAKAI, using the T&Q function. The net went down,
>>>>>> and when it was up again after half an hour or so, the students' timers
>>>>>> indicated that that half-hour had been counted, so they got a shorter time
>>>>>> for the test. Unfortunately, I don't know what the server(s) recorded.
>>>>>>   At any rate, the expected behavior would be for the student test
>>>>>> time to be extended accordingly, although I don't know how you'd solve it
>>>>>> technically.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David C. Minugh
>>>>>>         E-mail: David.Minugh at english.su.se
>>>>>> Director of Studies
>>>>>>                Tel: (+46) 8 16 36 11
>>>>>> English Department
>>>>>>                Cell phone: (+46) 70 - 23 14 777
>>>>>> Stockholm University
>>>>>>           Office: E 877, Frescati
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:
>>>>>> sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Swink
>>>>>> Sent: den 24 februari 2012 22:19
>>>>>> To: Sakai-Dev
>>>>>> Subject: [Building Sakai] Chrome and samigo assessment time?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We had a student whose browser, Chrome, shut down for whatever reason
>>>>>> about one hour into a two-hour timed exam in Samigo. When she restarted it
>>>>>> and went back to the exam, it showed only about half an hour remaining. It
>>>>>> should have shown one hour remaining. She took a screen shot, which showed
>>>>>> the timer remaining at that point, and also her computer's clock (which
>>>>>> showed the correct time of day). She submitted the exam when the timer ran
>>>>>> out, missing out on about 30 minutes of test time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> According to the server, she still had an hour left, not 30 minutes,
>>>>>> when she restarted her browser. So I'm wondering if this might be a problem
>>>>>> with Chrome, or has this sort of thing happened with other browsers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> sakai-dev mailing list
>>>>>> sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>>>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send email to
>>>>>> sakai-dev-unsubscribe at collab.sakaiproject.org with a subject of
>>>>>> "unsubscribe"
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:59:44 -0800
From: Kevin Chan <kevin at media.berkeley.edu>
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] CKEditor for Sakai 2.7.x?
To: Noah Botimer <botimer at umich.edu>
Cc: Sakai-Dev <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
Message-ID: <4F4D6A70.1000709 at media.berkeley.edu>
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Hi Noah,

To answer your questions:

1. We would be looking to swap in CKEditor for Sakai 2.7 during this
summer in preparation for our Fall 2012 semester.
2. We have a significant hardware overhaul project for our CLE this
summer, so we are not looking to upgrade to 2.8 or higher any time
before Summer 2013.

   Kevin Chan

   Operations Team
   Educational Technology Services
   UC Berkeley


On 2/22/12 6:38 PM, Noah Botimer wrote:
> Hi, Kevin.
>
> Since I am the primary culprit here, I'll say my piece. I don't think it would be all that hard to port the changes to 2.7. But there are two main reasons it hasn't been done yet:
>
>       1. The community appetite for it hasn't been clear.
>
>       2. The changes should not go into 2.7.x, because they affect the portal and some other bits, which could not be properly QA'd for a maintenance release.
>
> Neither of these is a deal-breaker. I've heard some casual interest here and there and should probably just get around to doing it. The trick is that anybody who runs it would be picking up a branch of reference, portal, and some other pieces, and need to rebuild all tools. Again, not a big deal for experienced hands, but nontrivial, particularly if you modify any of those pieces.
>
> I'd like to hear that there are a couple of groups interested and committed to "living on the branch" before biting off the work. What is your timeline for it to be useful and when do you imagine you might upgrade to 2.8/2.9?
>
> By the way, thanks for the reminder that I have some JIRA gardening to do.
>
> Thanks,
> -Noah
>
> On Feb 22, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Kevin Chan wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We are interested in testing and possibly running CKEditor, but are
>> still currently using Sakai CLE 2.7. I was able to find:
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-17880
>>
>> which shows "2.7.3" as the "Fix Version", but no actual svn activity in
>> the Sakai 2.7.x branch.
>>
>> So...
>>
>> 1. Is there any plans to include CKEditor in Sakai 2.7?
>> 2a. If yes, what is the timeline?
>> 2b. If no, how hard (and what might be the steps) to do so?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>>    Kevin Chan
>>
>>    Operations Team
>>    Educational Technology Services
>>    UC Berkeley
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 11:38:38 +0200
From: David Wafula <davidwaf at gmail.com>
Subject: [Building Sakai] presenceService...how to use it ?
To: Sakai Developers <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
Message-ID:
        <CAK9Ws2dny--wpY9wir5zrUb3K+eo8rom1sjWEZQQBTcJDgYSoQ at mail.gmail.com>
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Hi all,
Using spring, am initializing presence service in my spring_sevlet.xml
as follows:

<bean id="siteAdminService"
                        class="org.wits.sakai.siteadmin.service.SiteAdminServiceImpl"
                        init-method="init">
....
<property name="presenceService"
ref="org.sakaiproject.presence.api.PresenceService"/>
...
</bean>

and so i have the necessary  getPresenceService() and
setPresenceService() defined in SiteAdminServiceImpl, custom class.
Other services get auto-wired just fine, but not this. I get:


Failed to convert property value of type
[org.sakaiproject.presence.impl.ClusterPresenceService] to required
type [org.sakaiproject.presence.api.PresenceService] for property
'presenceService'; nested exception is
java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Cannot convert value of type
[org.sakaiproject.presence.impl.ClusterPresenceService] to required
type [org.sakaiproject.presence.api.PresenceService] for property
'presenceService': no matching editors or conversion strategy found


regards.
--
David Wafula


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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 07:15:34 -0500
From: Aaron Zeckoski <azeckoski at unicon.net>
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] presenceService...how to use it ?
To: David Wafula <davidwaf at gmail.com>
Cc: Sakai Developers <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
Message-ID:
        <CAMTQKLmzUiYs1Vg6pDKVhv_vXYYfJJMjhXNW33D8vCENchTdUg at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

This typically means you have a jar file in the wrong place somewhere.
Check that you don't have an API jar which is in shared in your webapp
as well.

Also, technically, this is not referred to as "initializing" but
rather as "injecting". The service was already initialized earlier by
Spring using the bean definition.
-AZ


On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:38 AM, David Wafula <davidwaf at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Using spring, am initializing presence service in my spring_sevlet.xml
> as follows:
>
> <bean id="siteAdminService"
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?class="org.wits.sakai.siteadmin.service.SiteAdminServiceImpl"
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?init-method="init">
> ....
> <property name="presenceService"
> ref="org.sakaiproject.presence.api.PresenceService"/>
> ...
> </bean>
>
> and so i have the necessary ?getPresenceService() and
> setPresenceService() defined in SiteAdminServiceImpl, custom class.
> Other services get auto-wired just fine, but not this. I get:
>
>
> Failed to convert property value of type
> [org.sakaiproject.presence.impl.ClusterPresenceService] to required
> type [org.sakaiproject.presence.api.PresenceService] for property
> 'presenceService'; nested exception is
> java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Cannot convert value of type
> [org.sakaiproject.presence.impl.ClusterPresenceService] to required
> type [org.sakaiproject.presence.api.PresenceService] for property
> 'presenceService': no matching editors or conversion strategy found
>
>
> regards.
> --
> David Wafula
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:26:48 +0200
From: Nkululeko Phakela <nonkululeko.phakela at wits.ac.za>
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Kernel
To: Adam Marshall <adam.marshall at oucs.ox.ac.uk>
Cc: Jihane Najdi <jnajdi at exchange.vt.edu>,
        "sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org"
        <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
Message-ID: <1330518408.15398.4.camel at nguni-desktop>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="UTF-8"

Hi Adam,

I have written something down instructions on how I was able to
accomplish, although they are not complete yet they are very close to
being complete. I blogged about it at this URL: http://bit.ly/wwNuwU

I have done this on the local machine and on the test server, but there
were some hiccups that I ran into, but got derailed because I had to
work on something else, but it's definitely something that is going to
be a finished product.

Nguni

On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 08:38 +0000, Adam Marshall wrote:
> your initiative sounds interesting, do you have anything written down? We're just about to look at something like this.
>
> adam
>
> --
>
> Dr AC Marshall (WebLearn Service Manager)
> OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford. OX2 6NN
>
> ________________________________________
> From: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] on behalf of Nonkululeko Phakela [Nonkululeko.Phakela at wits.ac.za]
> Sent: 28 February 2012 04:44
> To: Jihane Najdi
> Cc: sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
> Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Kernel
>
> Hi,
>
> I am working on a skin manager that displays different skins for different faculties. I had to get a checkout of kernel so that I can modify one or two things and using the suggestions you have made I have been able to get some work done. I have made some headway. The one thing I was missing was deleting the old kernel jar files from shared/lib.
>
> Thank you!
> Nguni
>
> Sent from my iPhone 4
>
> On Feb 27, 2012, at 16:27, "Jihane Najdi" <jnajdi at exchange.vt.edu> wrote:
>
> > Another thing to keep in mind is that certain indie tools (i.e.entiybroker) use purepoms as a parent.  purepoms also has a reference to kernel under sakai-basic-tool/pom.xml. If you don't have a customized  local purepoms,  certain indie tools will pulling a different kernel version.
> >
> > So if you decided to change the version of kernel (i.e. 1.2.6.vt), you need to make sure you have a local purepoms which is pointing to the new kernel version, and consequently your indie tools will have to point to your local purepoms .  The other option is to have a local instance of kernel but not change its version. This option however, will make it difficult to verify which version you are pulling, your local kernel or community kernel.
> >
> > Here at Virginia Tech, we went with the first option where we have a local version of kernel and purepoms.
> >
> > Hope this help,
> > JIhane
> >
> >
> > On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:32 AM, Steve Swinsburg wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Nguni,
> >>
> >> kernel-deploy just deploys the kernel artifacts, as you have specified in the master/pom.xml
> >>
> >> So you are just about there, you just need to clean out the old sakai-kernel-* jars from shared/lib, then start Tomcat and it should use the new version.
> >>
> >> Note that most wars include a specific version of the  sakai-kernel util jar so any static classes in there won't be using the new version (since the old jar is bundled). This may not be an issue, depending on your reason for the new kernel.
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> Steve
> >>
> >>
> >> On 27/02/2012, at 8:37 PM, Nkululeko Phakela wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> I would like to run kernel 1.2.6, the one that I checked out and have it
> >>> build and be the one that is used by Sakai.
> >>>
> >>> I have changed the version in master/pom.xml and I have also done a
> >>> build of master and sakai_src.
> >>>
> >>> Do I need to do something with kernel-deploy folder?
> >>>
> >>> I would appreciate any help.
> >>>
> >>> Kind Regards,
> >>> Nguni
> >>> --
> >>> Nkululeko Phakela
> >>> Software Developer
> >>> 011 717 7167
> >>> eLearning Support and Innovation (eLSI)
> >>> Witwatersrand University
> >>> Braamfontein, Johannesburg
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Software Developer
011 717 7167
eLearning Support and Innovation (eLSI)
Witwatersrand University
Braamfontein, Johannesburg
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 15:20:59 +0200
From: David Wafula <davidwaf at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] presenceService...how to use it ?
To: Aaron Zeckoski <azeckoski at unicon.net>
Cc: Sakai Developers <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
Message-ID:
        <CAK9Ws2cRgn+LYBYjN74CChunafzFeRjWJCX5j2gGFDwi-LnYZg at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Thanks Aron. I was inadvertently including the API jar in the app.
Removed it, and the error is gone. And yes, injection it is :)
regards,

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Aaron Zeckoski <azeckoski at unicon.net> wrote:
> This typically means you have a jar file in the wrong place somewhere.
> Check that you don't have an API jar which is in shared in your webapp
> as well.
>
> Also, technically, this is not referred to as "initializing" but
> rather as "injecting". The service was already initialized earlier by
> Spring using the bean definition.
> -AZ
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:38 AM, David Wafula <davidwaf at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Using spring, am initializing presence service in my spring_sevlet.xml
>> as follows:
>>
>> <bean id="siteAdminService"
>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?class="org.wits.sakai.siteadmin.service.SiteAdminServiceImpl"
>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?init-method="init">
>> ....
>> <property name="presenceService"
>> ref="org.sakaiproject.presence.api.PresenceService"/>
>> ...
>> </bean>
>>
>> and so i have the necessary ?getPresenceService() and
>> setPresenceService() defined in SiteAdminServiceImpl, custom class.
>> Other services get auto-wired just fine, but not this. I get:
>>
>>
>> Failed to convert property value of type
>> [org.sakaiproject.presence.impl.ClusterPresenceService] to required
>> type [org.sakaiproject.presence.api.PresenceService] for property
>> 'presenceService'; nested exception is
>> java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Cannot convert value of type
>> [org.sakaiproject.presence.impl.ClusterPresenceService] to required
>> type [org.sakaiproject.presence.api.PresenceService] for property
>> 'presenceService': no matching editors or conversion strategy found
>>
>>
>> regards.
>> --
>> David Wafula
>> _______________________________________________
>> sakai-dev mailing list
>> sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev
>>
>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send email to sakai-dev-unsubscribe at collab.sakaiproject.org with a subject of "unsubscribe"
>
>
>
> --
> Aaron Zeckoski - Software Architect - http://tinyurl.com/azprofile



--
David Wafula


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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:26:44 -0500
From: Michael Dunlap <michael.dunlap at yale.edu>
Subject: [Building Sakai] auto-provisioning of accounts?
To: sakai-dev <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
Message-ID: <4F4E35A4.8010100 at yale.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Good morning,

We have a proof-of-concept deployment of Sakai 2.8/OAE hybrid running
now and just about everything is working - CAS single-sign-on, BasicLTI
and Sakai2 widgets all work.  What I'd like to implement to finish it
all out is the ability to auto-provision accounts.  Is there an easy way
to do this?

Thanks,
Michael
--
Michael Dunlap                  UNIX Systems Administrator
michael.dunlap at yale.edu         Production Systems, ITS
(203) 436-2539                  Yale University
GPG Public Key: http://pantheon.yale.edu/~mrd25/gpg_work_key.pub


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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:28:25 +0000
From: Nicolaas Matthijs <nicolaas.matthijs at caret.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] auto-provisioning of accounts?
To: oae-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org,
        "oae-production at collab.sakaiproject.org Production"
        <oae-production at collab.sakaiproject.org>
Cc: sakai-dev <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
Message-ID: <96672326-EACA-46B0-89C3-C16ED0B4FC1A at caret.cam.ac.uk>
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Hi Michael,

I'm forwarding this to the oae-dev list as well.

Kind regards,
Nicolaas


On 29 Feb 2012, at 14:26, Michael Dunlap wrote:

> Good morning,
>
> We have a proof-of-concept deployment of Sakai 2.8/OAE hybrid running
> now and just about everything is working - CAS single-sign-on,
> BasicLTI
> and Sakai2 widgets all work.  What I'd like to implement to finish it
> all out is the ability to auto-provision accounts.  Is there an easy
> way
> to do this?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
> --
> Michael Dunlap                  UNIX Systems Administrator
> michael.dunlap at yale.edu         Production Systems, ITS
> (203) 436-2539                  Yale University
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:19:52 -0700 (MST)
From: Vicky Crowley <vcrowley at unicon.net>
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] TurnItIn & Assignment2
To: sakai-dev <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
Message-ID:
        <25866283.11331.1330535992537.JavaMail.root at zimbra.unicon.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

All,

Just in case this helps someone else in the future, the following properties work. Note that there are no inline comments and spaces around the = sign in some of the properties. I tried a couple of attempts to find out which one was the culprit but ended up with this configuration.

assignment.useContentReview=true
turnitin.enable.assignment2=true
turnitin.apiURL=https://www.turnitin.com/api.asp?
turnitin.secretKey = ***
turnitin.said = *****
turnitin.aid = *****
turnitin.useSourceParameter=true


Thank you,

Vicky


----- Original Message -----
From: "Vicky Crowley" <vcrowley at unicon.net>
To: "sakai-dev" <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:22:40 PM
Subject: [Building Sakai] TurnItIn & Assignment2


I am trying to integrate TurnItIn with their Sakai installation. I am able to get the TurnItIn options to display when I add a new assignment using the Assignment tool but will not show up when I add a new assignment using Assignment2. Here is what I have done:

svn export https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/content-review/tags/contentreview-2.9.1 contentreview-2.9.1
mvn build & deploy content-review
svn export https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/turnitin/tags/content-review-0.7 turn-it-in
mvn build & deploy turnitin

Added the following properties to local.properties:

assignment.useContentReview=true
turnitin.enable.assignment2=true # This assumes you are using Assignments 2
turnitin.apiURL= https://www.turnitin.com/api.asp?
turnitin.secretKey=***** # This is the secret you set online.
turnitin.said=***** # These are the 5 digit account
turnitin.aid=***** # ID you had enabled
turnitin.useSourceParameter=true

Started Sakai and added the 2 jobs via job scheduler. I am using Sakai 2.7.1 and Assignment2 version 1.0-rc-1.

Seems like I am missing one key piece to get this to display in Assignment2 but I can't seem to figure out what I am missing. Any suggestions/idea/comments are greatly appreciated.


Thank you,

Vicky Crowley
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 23:21:08 +0500
From: ali jan <sakaicle at gmail.com>
Subject: [Building Sakai]  Sakai and Gmail Integration
To: sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
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Dear all


I want when a user login to gmail then login to sakai is bi-passed.

in my sakai installation user_id is exactly like gmail account.


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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 13:30:25 -0500 (EST)
From: "Kevin P. Foote" <kpfoote at iup.edu>
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Sakai and Gmail Integration
To: ali jan <sakaicle at gmail.com>
Cc: sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
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I think you will have to use some sort of browser based SSO solution to
make this work.

Something like shibboleth (mod_shib), openid (mod_auth_openid), or
CAS (mod_auth_cas). On the sakai side this is called "container
authentication" if my memory serves me correctly.

Trick is to find a technology that both players, sakai and gmail in
your case, work with.

------
thanks
  kevin.foote

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, ali jan wrote:

-> Dear all
->
->
-> I want when a user login to gmail then login to sakai is bi-passed.
->
-> in my sakai installation user_id is exactly like gmail account.
->
->
-> Thanks
->


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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 00:03:03 +0500
From: ali jan <sakaicle at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Sakai and Gmail Integration
To: "Kevin P. Foote" <kpfoote at iup.edu>
Cc: sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
Message-ID:
        <CAK48f+OBh5JeF3DdEkS7VRQBGK3kbnpwr0O+8=R=2TH3fz-L9g at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

rsmart integrated google docs with sakai, any idea how they did it.

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Kevin P. Foote <kpfoote at iup.edu> wrote:

>
>
> I think you will have to use some sort of browser based SSO solution to
> make this work.
>
> Something like shibboleth (mod_shib), openid (mod_auth_openid), or
> CAS (mod_auth_cas). On the sakai side this is called "container
> authentication" if my memory serves me correctly.
>
> Trick is to find a technology that both players, sakai and gmail in
> your case, work with.
>
> ------
> thanks
>  kevin.foote
>
> On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, ali jan wrote:
>
> -> Dear all
> ->
> ->
> -> I want when a user login to gmail then login to sakai is bi-passed.
> ->
> -> in my sakai installation user_id is exactly like gmail account.
> ->
> ->
> -> Thanks
> ->
>
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:15:11 -0500
From: Matthew Jones <matthew at longsight.com>
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Sakai and Gmail Integration
To: ali jan <sakaicle at gmail.com>
Cc: sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
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Yea, at a high level duffy at rsmart.com wrote a contrib tool that uses the
google docs api and implements ContentResource.

https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/rsmart/google-content/trunk/

For authentication only, you'll have either use the mod_open_id in Apache
as Kevin suggests ( http://www.unicon.net/node/1210 ) or you're going to
have to write an Openid provider for Sakai login in general. There was some
rumors of some schools writing in some OAuth support for Sakai (mostly for
mobile) but nothing committed, and I don't think anything that would work
like for this specifically.

The only thing you'd never get to work would be webdav as that protocol
*requires* passwords. The only way we'd get that to work would be is Sakai
created special temporary tokens/passwords for the users to use for webdav.

The google docs tool uses an OAuth specific to the tool, it's the primary
way Google (and most other sites) allow external sites to authenticate. [1]

https://source.sakaiproject.org/viewsvn/rsmart/google-content/trunk/tool/src/java/com/rsmart/content/google/oauth/?root=contrib


[1] https://code.google.com/apis/accounts/docs/OAuth.html

-Matthew

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:03 PM, ali jan <sakaicle at gmail.com> wrote:

> rsmart integrated google docs with sakai, any idea how they did it.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Kevin P. Foote <kpfoote at iup.edu> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I think you will have to use some sort of browser based SSO solution to
>> make this work.
>>
>> Something like shibboleth (mod_shib), openid (mod_auth_openid), or
>> CAS (mod_auth_cas). On the sakai side this is called "container
>> authentication" if my memory serves me correctly.
>>
>> Trick is to find a technology that both players, sakai and gmail in
>> your case, work with.
>>
>> ------
>> thanks
>>  kevin.foote
>>
>> On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, ali jan wrote:
>>
>> -> Dear all
>> ->
>> ->
>> -> I want when a user login to gmail then login to sakai is bi-passed.
>> ->
>> -> in my sakai installation user_id is exactly like gmail account.
>> ->
>> ->
>> -> Thanks
>> ->
>>
>
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