[Building Sakai] Suggestion for improvement of i18n and L10n handling in JIRA

[Beth Kirschner]

I guess the real question is what is the problem we're trying to solve? Jean-Francois mentioned that the auto-assign of I18N issues sometimes requires me to re-assign the owner -- this really isn't a huge inconvenience and sometimes allows me to vet issues and update components if incorrect. Jean-Francois also proposes adding two new checkboxes that differentiate between L10N and I18N -- I guess I worry that people may not find or understand these checkboxes.

The "Maintenance Team" checkbox has fallen into dis-use, with the "assigned to" field more consistently reflecting a "Maintenance Team" issue (now called CLE team, since all CLE developer's are now considered de-facto members of the CLE/Maintenance Team). If a field isn't required, I suspect many will not fill it in. I wouldn't want to see us losing the ability to identify I18N/L10N issues.

- Beth

On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:12 PM, Shoji Kajita wrote:

> Hi Beth,
> 
> Thank you for your swift reaction. Then, what shall we do?
> 
> So far, Jean-Francois's suggestion is most reasonable for me.
> 
> Best regards,
> Shoji
> 
> At Wed, 8 Feb 2012 11:55:58 -0500,
> Beth Kirschner wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Shoji,
>> 
>>   No problem -- I jumped the gun and have reverted the JIRA component to read "Internationalization".
>> 
>> - Beth
>> 
>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 3:44 AM, Shoji Kajita wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Beth,
>>> 
>>> I found that "x-internationalization" you are proposing has been
>>> already available on Jira.
>>> 
>>> I think it is not a good solution because:
>>> 
>>> 1. it is NOT matching for "internationalization" (Jira tells me "No
>>>    Matches" when I'm typing in Component/s field in creating a Jira
>>>    issue so that almost nobody can use),
>>> 
>>> 2. we haven't reached the conclusion.
>>> 
>>> Please continue our discussion to find a better solution.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Shoji
>>> 
>>> At Thu, 2 Feb 2012 10:43:10 -0500,
>>> Beth Kirschner wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> How about we try for a low-tech hack of changing the I18N component to sort alphabetically to the end -- ("x-Internationalization"). This will make sure the primary component owners get assigned?
>>>> 
>>>> - Beth
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:11 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> All the CLE internationalization component issues are currently 
>>>>> automagically assigned to Beth Kirschner (Lead for this component in 
>>>>> JIRA) if the real component name is after Internationalization in 
>>>>> alphabetical order. She then assigns most of the issues to the real 
>>>>> component owner. I don't think this is really convenient.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Internationalization and translation issues are currently mixed in the 
>>>>> internationalization component. There is no way to know the ones are 
>>>>> internationalization from the ones that are translation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> A better solution for both issues is welcome if my suggestion is not 
>>>>> good enough.
>>>>> 
>>>>> J-F
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 31/01/2012 17:35, Aaron Zeckoski wrote:
>>>>>> That doesn't really sound easier to me and there are getting to be an
>>>>>> awful lot of checkboxes there. The current filters should do exactly
>>>>>> what you want without a lot of work to make this change in JIRA.
>>>>>> -AZ
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque
>>>>>> <jean-francois.leveque at upmc.fr>  wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Currently, SAK issues can have internationalization in the list of
>>>>>>> components.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> AFAICT, the only real internationalization component has been in kernel
>>>>>>> since the creation of kernel with Sakai 2.6.0.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Currently the JIRA internationalization component is used both for L10n
>>>>>>> and i18n issues.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I suggest we stop using this component and add 2 new check-boxes (like
>>>>>>> the Maintenance Team Issue one):
>>>>>>> Internationalization Issue
>>>>>>> Localization Issue
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It seems to me this way will be easier to check which languages have
>>>>>>> been updated or to look for internationalization issues.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What do you think ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> J-F
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