[Building Sakai] online chat site-wide?
Adrian Fish
a.fish at lancaster.ac.uk
Wed Feb 8 04:02:10 PST 2012
That's risky though as it puts the burden on the instructor. One day
someone will forget and the students will all get similar marks :)
On 08/02/2012 11:48, Steve Swinsburg wrote:
> Similarly, couldn't a user just open two browser windows, go and chat
> in one, then do the exam in the other?
>
> Though I think we need a setting where the instructor can disable the
> chat in the site. It would be a setting in chat itself, i.e. a
> checkbox or button. If the user has permission, they see the option.
> Then the can reenable it when they are done with the exam. Any sort of
> social interaction tool is going to cause issues with assessment at
> some stage though (even forums, or the wiki).
>
> cheers,
> Steve
>
>
>
> On 08/02/2012, at 8:50 PM, Adrian Fish wrote:
>
>> At a tool level, if the tool, Samigo for example, keeps state if you
>> switch tools, disabling chat won't work as you'll be able to switch
>> tools and chat for a bit before coming back. It'll have to be
>> disabled at the site level. It seems a bit heavy to shut down chat
>> just because Samigo is installed in a site though. The check could
>> perhaps be floating chat checking for Samigo or Mneme being installed
>> *and* visible and then disabling itself.
>>
>> It'd have to be done in the portal as I assume we can't introduce
>> dependencies on floating chat in tools like Samigo, or maybe we can
>> with 2.9 upwards.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Adrian.
>>
>> On 07/02/2012 15:33, Matthew Jones wrote:
>>> It *sounds* like it is, and assuming he's doing his assessment from
>>> a secure testing environment and a browser like Respondus , the
>>> online chat does still provide a in-system means of communicating
>>> with your others in your class. It seems like it needs to be
>>> disabled/hidden in certain tools, specifically the assessment ones.
>>> Ideally there would be an option (which defaults to on) when the
>>> assessment is created whether or not to disable the chat, and then
>>> only disable while it is being administered. Though I'm feeling like
>>> it might be easier to do it in the portal where we already do the
>>> browser check, and just also do a tool.id <http://tool.id/> check
>>> for specific tools.
>>>
>>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-21521
>>>
>>> I suppose it's possible the iframe location could change to a
>>> different tool and the parent not know about it? It seems portal
>>> should keep better track of the iframe locations, and it *looks*
>>> like the onLoad method of the iframe will update the parent whenever
>>> the location changes.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 5:21 AM, Steve Swinsburg
>>> <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com <mailto:steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Which version Sakai? There is a new system wide chat tool in
>>> 2.9+, which works via connections and site members. But this is
>>> the one in the bottom right of the browse window. Is this the
>>> one you are using?
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/02/2012, at 7:02 PM, Fatima Rahiman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear All
>>>> We seem to have strange occurrence with our SAKAI instance
>>>> whereby the chat tool is available site–wide…i.e. one can chat
>>>> to anyone logged on to the system hence this obviously poses a
>>>> security risk if students are engaged in assessments .I
>>>> suspect that this must do with some setting that hasn’t been
>>>> properly enabled. Can anyone please advise?
>>>> Surely the online chat tool should be course specific ?
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