[Building Sakai] online chat site-wide?

Adrian Fish a.fish at lancaster.ac.uk
Wed Feb 8 04:02:10 PST 2012


That's risky though as it puts the burden on the instructor. One day 
someone will forget and the students will all get similar marks :)

On 08/02/2012 11:48, Steve Swinsburg wrote:
> Similarly, couldn't a user just open two browser windows, go and chat 
> in one, then do the exam in the other?
>
> Though I think we need a setting where the instructor can disable the 
> chat in the site. It would be a setting in chat itself, i.e. a 
> checkbox or button. If the user has permission, they see the option. 
> Then the can reenable it when they are done with the exam. Any sort of 
> social interaction tool is going to cause issues with assessment at 
> some stage though (even forums, or the wiki).
>
> cheers,
> Steve
>
>
>
> On 08/02/2012, at 8:50 PM, Adrian Fish wrote:
>
>> At a tool level, if the tool, Samigo for example, keeps state if you 
>> switch tools, disabling chat won't work as you'll be able to switch 
>> tools and chat for a bit before coming back. It'll have to be 
>> disabled at the site level. It seems a bit heavy to shut down chat 
>> just because Samigo is installed in a site though. The check could 
>> perhaps be floating chat checking for Samigo or Mneme being installed 
>> *and* visible and then disabling itself.
>>
>> It'd have to be done in the portal as I assume we can't introduce 
>> dependencies on floating chat in tools like Samigo, or maybe we can 
>> with 2.9 upwards.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Adrian.
>>
>> On 07/02/2012 15:33, Matthew Jones wrote:
>>> It *sounds* like it is, and assuming he's doing his assessment from 
>>> a secure testing environment and a browser like  Respondus , the 
>>> online chat does still provide a in-system means of communicating 
>>> with your others in your class. It seems like it needs to be 
>>> disabled/hidden in certain tools, specifically the assessment ones. 
>>> Ideally there would be an option (which defaults to on) when the 
>>> assessment is created whether or not to disable the chat, and then 
>>> only disable while it is being administered. Though I'm feeling like 
>>> it might be easier to do it in the portal where we already do the 
>>> browser check, and just also do a tool.id <http://tool.id/> check 
>>> for specific tools.
>>>
>>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-21521
>>>
>>> I suppose it's possible the iframe location could change to a 
>>> different tool and the parent not know about it? It seems portal 
>>> should keep better track of the iframe locations, and it *looks* 
>>> like the onLoad method of the iframe will update the parent whenever 
>>> the location changes.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 5:21 AM, Steve Swinsburg 
>>> <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com <mailto:steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi,
>>>
>>>     Which version Sakai? There is a new system wide chat tool in
>>>     2.9+, which works via connections and site members. But this is
>>>     the one in the bottom right of the browse window. Is this the
>>>     one you are using?
>>>
>>>     cheers,
>>>     Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 07/02/2012, at 7:02 PM, Fatima Rahiman wrote:
>>>
>>>>     Dear All
>>>>     We seem to  have strange  occurrence with our SAKAI instance
>>>>     whereby the chat tool is available site–wide…i.e. one can chat
>>>>     to  anyone logged on to the system hence this obviously poses a
>>>>     security risk if students  are engaged in assessments .I
>>>>     suspect that  this must do with some setting that hasn’t been
>>>>     properly enabled. Can anyone please advise?
>>>>     Surely  the online chat tool should be course specific ?
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