[Building Sakai] Localization of date time format

[Magnus Tagesson]

Från: DAVID ROLDAN MARTINEZ <darolmar at upvnet.upv.es<mailto:darolmar at upvnet.upv.es>>
Datum: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 14:03:42 +0100
Till: Magnus Tagesson <magnus.tagesson at su.se<mailto:magnus.tagesson at su.se>>
Kopia: "Miguel Carro Pellicer (miguel.carro at samoo.es<mailto:miguel.carro at samoo.es>)" <miguel.carro at samoo.es<mailto:miguel.carro at samoo.es>>
Ämne: RE: [WG: I18N & L10N] Localization of date time format

Hi Magnus,
I absolutely support your initiative. In fact, if you review most of my last mails to Sakai-dev list, I’ve been working in that line. My challenge is to find a solution with jquery that would be also accessible, not only i18ned. But got low answer feedback (as I expected :().

I’m cc’ing Miguel Carro, from Samoo, who is also interested in this. Tomorrow, I have a conference with all Spanish Universities working with Sakai. I’ll include this in the agenda and let you know.

The main problem is that nobody but project teams can guarantee that they will use our proposed solution. Without they effort/agreement, our effort is (almost) worthless…though it should be done, anyway.

My proposal is to wait until tomorrow or the day after (we have the conference at the end of the evening) and forward your mail also to Sakai-dev so that project teams and kernel team would be aware about this.

Please, let me know your feedback about my proposal and how I can help with this.

Cheers,
                David

De: i18n-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:i18n-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org> [mailto:i18n-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] En nombre de Magnus Tagesson
Enviado el: martes, 22 de noviembre de 2011 13:45
Para: i18n at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:i18n at collab.sakaiproject.org>
Asunto: [WG: I18N & L10N] Localization of date time format

Hi all,

Umeå University and Stockholm University have decided to try to solve the localization of date and time once for all in Sakai (at least in all modules used by any of the two universities). Different tools use different frameworks and this means different solutions to the problem. Changes to the Time service in the kernel to configure the default fomat from the chosen locale solve some issues with displaying date and time. For date/time input issues the plan is to use jquery UI which requires the use of a fairly newer version of jquery. This supports a date/time picker that we would like to implement in the tools that use this javascript library.

It's necessary, mostly from a developer resource perspective, to make a priority list, that takes both importance and date/time usage in tools, but also the level of ambition, into account. The latter means that we might solve the display of dates and time to users but not the actual picking/entering of date/time in all tools.

The intention is to solve this for all locales, and absolutely not to break anything that already works. We'd like to see that things defaults back to how things work and are seen/shown today, with the exception of the use of a new picker. But every Sakai tool project lead off course has to review the work done by us.

At this point, any input are highly welcome!

/Johan and Magnus


Johan Carlsson
Project lead, Umeå

Magnus Tagesson
Project lead, Stockholm
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