[Building Sakai] [Using Sakai] Sakai 2.8 - Which institutions have upgraded already?

[Regan, Alan]

Thanks again to everyone for their feedback on testing or adopting Sakai 2.8.

I started a Google Doc to try to compile info in case other institutions can benefit.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlmMUkCozjX_dHBfcXAzSVpXNjNERUFFTEhNMTRNbWc&hl=en_US

Anyone should be able to access and edit the above spreadsheet.  I tried to compile the info from the recent dev thread in the spreadsheet, but my apologies if I noted something incorrectly!

To my Canadian neighbors -- have a great Canada Day!  To my US colleagues, a great Fourth of July weekend!  To my international friends, may your days (whether holiday or not) be great, too!

Sincerely,

Alan Regan, MFA
Manager, Technology and Learning
Information Technology
Pepperdine University
(310) 506-6756

From: DAVID ROLDAN MARTINEZ [mailto:darolmar at upvnet.upv.es]
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:18 AM
To: Regan, Alan; Noah Botimer
Cc: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org; sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org; Beth Kirschner
Subject: RE: [Building Sakai] [Using Sakai] Sakai 2.8 - Which institutions have upgraded already?

Hi Alan,

I'm glad you like SAK-10393.  However, the merits are for Samoo (http://www.samoo.es), which an e-learning company working closely with S2U (Spanish Sakai Universities).

BTW, if you have language programs you probably would love to get involved in fixing&testing i18n bugs. We are now in the process of prioritizing i18n pending bugs so if you are specially interested in being some concrete tickets fixed, please, let me know and I'll try to do my best.

Thank you very much in advance.

David

De: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] En nombre de Regan, Alan
Enviado el: jueves, 30 de junio de 2011 23:46
Para: Noah Botimer
CC: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org; sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
Asunto: Re: [Building Sakai] [Using Sakai] Sakai 2.8 - Which institutions have upgraded already?

Thanks, Noah!  I wasn't aware of that option, and it certainly sounds like a good way to keep a solid production instance stable but allow some sites for experimentation and further testing.  I appreciate the suggestion.  (And thanks for the guidance on how best to communicate experience with CKEditor via list and JIRA. Is there a specific category to assign the JIRA related to the editor?  Pardon my lack of knowledge here.)

And David Roldan Martinez, thank you, too.  (BTW, wanted to be sure and thank you for your list email back in April on SAK-10393. It was very helpful.  Any schools that have language programs will know how important it is for a professor to define the language of a site.  Glad to see that the JIRA ticket was resolved.  I see it's listed as "2.9 tentative"... hopefully it'll be confirmed; it's pretty key functionality, IMHO.)

Sincerely,

Alan Regan, MFA
Manager, Technology and Learning
Information Technology
Pepperdine University
(310) 506-6756

From: Noah Botimer [mailto:botimer at umich.edu]<mailto:[mailto:botimer at umich.edu]>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:04 PM
To: Regan, Alan
Cc: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>; pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org>; sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] Sakai 2.8 - Which institutions have upgraded already?

Alan,

Something you might entertain as an option is activating CKEditor in a few sites. You can choose the system-wide default and override at a site level, which could give you a focused understanding of behavior with a smaller audience.

I encourage people to try it out but do warn that the integration is at a "beta" level. There are some known issues. The TCC did have some conversation on how to support CKEditor and move it forward. One of the questions is the input channel for feedback. I would say that the right answer (as usual) is to discuss things on list and file JIRA tickets. The other question is how we can ramp up the technical work -- I'm trying to make progress there (as I have unfortunately gated some of it) and have some gracious offers to help figure it out.

Real and expert user testing with documented results/issues/suggestions will help the process along dramatically. I welcome your feedback.

Thanks,
-Noah


P.S., things that don't work should probably target sakai-dev, while I would aim items like configuration ideas (toolbars, etc.) to sakai-user to get firmed up.

On Jun 30, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Regan, Alan wrote:

Hi, all.

At Pepperdine University, we'd like to adopt Sakai 2.8 for the fall, with an upgrade tentatively scheduled for early August.

We understand that both Rutgers and Univ. of Delaware have adopted Sakai 2.8 already.  Is anyone else currently running Sakai 2.8 in production?  I see Mathieu Plourde's note about a Samigo issue, and wanted to get feedback from others about key items to be aware of.

I'm also curious to know who is using the new CKEditor in 2.8 instead of the FCKEditor.  The "pain" of MS Word junk in Forum posts, etc. is an issue for our community.  We notice, though, that some features, like Melete, "Word Count" in the Forums tool, and some other features aren't working currently with the new CKEditor, but can be addressed.  The new CKEditor seems to be a better choice for usability, accessibility, and the simple fact that it strips out the MS Word junk without forcing the user to know about and use the "Paste from Word" tool.  So, is anyone using the experimental CKEditor option right now?

For others, we are likely to trail blaze the Elluminate integration for Sakai 2.8, with the help of our hosting partner, Longsight.  We'll share the outcome with Elluminate so other institutions can benefit in the future.

Anyway... I'd love to hear experiences with Sakai 2.8 in production or roadmaps to adopt.  Things to watch for, etc.

Thanks!

Sincerely,

Alan Regan, MFA
Manager, Technology and Learning
Information Technology
Pepperdine University
(310) 506-6756

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