[Building Sakai] sakai-dev Digest, Vol 20, Issue 23

Roland Groen roland at edia.nl
Mon Oct 25 04:07:06 PDT 2010


Hi Hai,

We've identified this problem, it has to do with wicket crashing on JVM 1.6,
see http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/browse/WIC-13.

Please check out the installation guide at:
http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/SCORMPLAYER/Edia+SCORM+player+installation+guide

The solution to the problem is porting the sakai-wicket project to a wicket
1.4 version.

Kind regards,

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On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Hai Nguyen thanh <haicse06 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Dear all,
> I installed scorm player into Sakai 2.7.0 successful. When I play scorm
> file in sakai, tomcat crashes immediately. Do you have any solution to solve
> this problem? Please help me!
> Thanks
> Hai
>
> On 25 October 2010 02:00, <sakai-dev-request at collab.sakaiproject.org>wrote:
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>>   1. Re: Sitestats 2.1.0 in Sakai 2.6.x (Nuno Fernandes)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 13:31:07 +0100
>> From: Nuno Fernandes <nfgrilo at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Sitestats 2.1.0 in Sakai 2.6.x
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>> Hi Matthew,
>>
>>
>> Yes - you just need to change the pom's in order to run 2.1.0 with Sakai
>> 2.6.x. We did that with 2.1 and are doing the same using 2.2-SNAPSHOT with
>> Sakai 2.7.1...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nuno
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:00 PM,
>> <sakai-dev-request at collab.sakaiproject.org>wrote:
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>> > Today's Topics:
>> >
>> >   1. Re: InnoDB Question (Bryan Bakotich)
>> >   2. Re: Problem with pom.xml at root of edu-services
>> >      (Maurer, Christopher Wayne)
>> >   3. Re: Problem with pom.xml at root of edu-services (Jim Eng)
>> >   4. Re: Problem with pom.xml at root of edu-services (Jim Eng)
>> >   5. Re: Problem with pom.xml at root of edu-services (Noah Botimer)
>> >   6. Re: Problem with pom.xml at root of edu-services (Jim Eng)
>> >   7. Re: Problem with pom.xml at root of edu-services (Steve Swinsburg)
>> >   8. Re: Problem with pom.xml at root of edu-services (Jim Eng)
>> >   9. Re: Problem with pom.xml at root of edu-services (Anthony Whyte)
>> >  10. Re: Problem with pom.xml at root of edu-services (Anthony Whyte)
>> >  11. Re: Problem with pom.xml at root of edu-services (Jim Eng)
>> >  12. Re: Problem with pom.xml at root of edu-services (Anthony Whyte)
>> >  13. Re: Problem with pom.xml at root of edu-services (Anthony Whyte)
>> >  14. PostgreSQL support (Jacek Bilski)
>> >  15. How to fix this problem with Tests&Quizzes and    Chat tools
>> >      (Tin Nguyen)
>> >  16. Re: Displaying details in Resources' table view (Adam Marshall)
>> >  17. Sitestats 2.1.0 in Sakai 2.6.x (Matthew Buckett)
>> >  18. math editor for fckeditor (John Bush)
>> >  19. Re: math editor for fckeditor (Qian, Zhen)
>> >  20. Re: How to fix this problem with Tests&Quizzes and Chat tools
>> >      (Karen Tsao)
>> >  21. Re: math editor for fckeditor (Richwine, Brian L)
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 12:01:25 -0700
>> > From: Bryan Bakotich <bakotibj at plu.edu>
>> > Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] InnoDB Question
>> > To: Sam Ottenhoff <ottenhoff at longsight.com>
>> > Cc: sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
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>> >
>> > I think the change in that JIRA makes it so tables that say
>> ENGINE=INNODB
>> > in
>> > the create statement actually get created as InnoDB tables. I just
>> checked
>> > a
>> > fresh 2.7.x install with no add-on tools and 199 out of 312 tables are
>> > InnoDB. The rest are MyISAM.
>> >
>> > -Bryan
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Sam Ottenhoff <
>> ottenhoff at longsight.com
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > >  I thought there was a change to the default Hibernate dialect in this
>> > > JIRA:
>> > >
>> > >   http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-10699
>> > >
>> > > But yes, I support documentation changes also.  I have seen this
>> happen
>> > to
>> > > multiple institutions.  I agree that installation instructions should
>> > offer
>> > > more explicit warnings about the MySQL engine.
>> > >
>> > > --Sam
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 10/21/2010 2:48 PM, Bryan Bakotich wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Sam,
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for the info, I will give that a shot on our dev server.
>> > >
>> > > If all tables should be InnoDB I think we should modify the
>> documentation
>> > > to explicitly say that. It seems a little ambiguous how it's worded
>> now
>> > > especially since a good portion of the tables are created as InnoDB
>> even
>> > if
>> > > it isn't the default storage engine.
>> > >
>> > > Maybe we could add something like this (which is a little info note in
>> > > atlassian's confluence setup guide):
>> > > *It is* *highly recommended* *that you only use the InnoDB storage
>> engine
>> > > with Confluence. Avoid using the MyISAM storage engine as this can
>> lead
>> > to
>> > > data corruption.*
>> > >
>> > > Or we could append something like
>> &sessionVariables=storage_engine=InnoDB
>> > > to the jdbc url in the default sakai.properties file so that people
>> don't
>> > > have to modify the default storage engine.
>> > >
>> > > Any thoughts?
>> > >
>> > > -Bryan
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Sam Ottenhoff <
>> ottenhoff at longsight.com
>> > >wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>  I strongly recommend using only InnoDB.  All tables should be
>> InnoDB.
>> > >> Using only InnoDB will provide transaction support, foreign key
>> support,
>> > and
>> > >> will make sure you are running on the same database engine as other
>> > Sakai
>> > >> MySQL users.
>> > >>
>> > >> I recommend stopping Sakai, doing a MySQL database dump, changing all
>> > >> table creation stanzas to use InnoDB, and re-importing the database.
>> > >> Finally, I recommend starting a clean instance of Sakai 2.7 to
>> compare
>> > it
>> > >> your newly-converted InnoDB database.  If you have any missing
>> foreign
>> > keys
>> > >> in your converted database, you will have to resolve duplicate data
>> > manually
>> > >> and apply the foreign-key constraints manually.
>> > >>
>> > >> --Sam
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On 10/20/2010 8:31 PM, Bryan Bakotich wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>  Hi,
>> > >>
>> > >> On the Sakai 2.7 install guide it says this about MySQL and InnoDB:
>> > Sakai
>> > >> requires transaction support. In the case of MySQL you must implement
>> > the
>> > >> InnoDB storage engine to ensure proper transaction handling.
>> > >>
>> > >> Does this mean that InnoDB just needs to be an available storage
>> engine
>> > or
>> > >> should this be the default storage engine so that all tables are
>> InnoDB?
>> > I
>> > >> am asking this because our current 2.6.x database is a mix of MyISAM
>> and
>> > >> InnoDB and I just ran into an error while running the
>> > >> sakai_2_7_0_mysql_conversion.sql script because one of our existing
>> > tables
>> > >> was MyISAM and it needed to be InnoDB.
>> > >> I also recently did a fresh 2.7 install for a non-profit and their
>> > >> database has a lot more InnoDB tables than ours (Our current
>> > installation
>> > >> has 118, fresh install has 199).
>> > >>
>> > >> So should all tables be InnoDB or just a few? Is it documented
>> anywhere
>> > >> what tables should be what storage engine so I can make sure our
>> > database is
>> > >> correct? Thanks for the help!
>> > >>
>> > >> -Bryan
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Bryan Bakotich
>> > >> Open Source Implementation Specialist
>> > >> Digital Media Center, Information & Technology Services
>> > >> Pacific Lutheran University
>> > >> Tacoma, WA 98447-0013
>> > >> Phone: 253-536-5021
>> > >>
>> > >>
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>> > > --
>> > > Bryan Bakotich
>> > > Open Source Implementation Specialist
>> > > Digital Media Center, Information & Technology Services
>> > > Pacific Lutheran University
>> > > Tacoma, WA 98447-0013
>> > > Phone: 253-536-5021
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Bryan Bakotich
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>> > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:02:29 +0000
>> > From: "Maurer, Christopher Wayne" <chmaurer at iupui.edu>
>> > Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Problem with pom.xml at root of
>> >        edu-services
>> > To: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > Cc: "gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org"
>> >        <gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>, David Pang <
>> dxp at umich.edu
>> > >,
>> >        Sakai-Dev Developers <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
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>> > Jim,
>> > I think this is the same sort of issue that we just ran into at IU.
>>  There
>> > are version ranges specified in the poms and apparently maven isn't
>> dealing
>> > with them properly.  What we were seeing was a dependency that had a
>> range
>> > like this:
>> >
>> > <version>[2.7.0,2.8.0)</version>
>> >
>> > ?was pulling in the 2.8.0-alpha02 artifacts.
>> > This caught us a bit off guard!  So, I expect that's the same thing
>> you're
>> > seeing.  It's pulling in those alpha artifacts related to the 2.8
>> release
>> > instead of the highest 2.7 artifact.
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu<mailto:jimeng at umich.edu>>
>> > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:46:24 -0400
>> > To: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu<mailto:jimeng at umich.edu>>
>> > Cc: <gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:
>> > gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>>, David Pang <dxp at umich.edu
>> > <mailto:dxp at umich.edu>>, Sakai-Dev Developers <
>> > sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:
>> sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> > >>
>> > Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Problem with pom.xml at root of
>> edu-services
>> >
>> > master/pom.xml defines this property:
>> >
>> > <sakai.edu-services.version>1.0.6</sakai.edu-services.version>
>> >
>> > I am not seeing any hardcoded versions in master, core-deploy, sections
>> or
>> > gradebook2.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> >
>> > Turns out there's another problem. Sakai 2.7.1 and 2.7.x seem to have a
>> mix
>> > of versions for edu-services.  After cleaning out everything from
>> > ~/.m2/repository/org/sakaiproject and starting to build full sakai
>> version
>> > 2.7.1, I find that sections-integrationsupport-1.0.6.jar has been put
>> into
>> > my m2 repo.  But when gradebook2 tries to find the sections-api jar, it
>> ends
>> > up using ${sakai.edu-services.version} when looking for that jar, and
>> > ${sakai.edu-services.version} seems to have a value of 1.1.0-a02 instead
>> of
>> > 1.0.6.
>> >
>> > I have been trying to unwind this to see why core-deply gets the 1.0.6
>> > versions of various edu-services jars, but then the sections project
>> seems
>> > to want the 1.1.0-a02 versions.
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Oct 20, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Anthony Whyte wrote:
>> >
>> > I'll handle this.
>> >
>> > Anth
>> >
>> >
>> > On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Matthew Jones wrote:
>> >
>> > Looks like Anthony removed this from master in November 2009? Searching
>> > email it's given people a lot of problems in various messages.
>> >
>> >
>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai-dev/2010-January/005521.html
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu<mailto:
>> > jimeng at umich.edu>> wrote:
>> > What I meant was:  Could someone remove or update **the apache-repo
>> > repository element in** the edu-services pom.xml file?
>> >
>> > :-)
>> >
>> > On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> >
>> > > The "repositories" tag in the root pom.xml file for edu-services
>> includes
>> > the following repository element:
>> > >
>> > >        <repository>
>> > >            <id>apache-repo</id>
>> > >            <name>apache-repo</name>
>> > >            <layout>default</layout>
>> > >            <url>http://myfaces.zones.apache.org/dist/maven-repository
>> > </url>
>> > >            <releases>
>> > >                <enabled>true</enabled>
>> > >            </releases>
>> > >            <snapshots>
>> > >                <enabled>false</enabled>
>> > >            </snapshots>
>> > >        </repository>
>> > >
>> > > This seems to be an invalid URL, and it causes problems when doing a
>> full
>> > build of sakai with gradebook2.  The build hangs at this point for
>> several
>> > minutes before timing out:
>> > >
>> > > [INFO] artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport:
>> checking
>> > for updates from apache-repo
>> > >
>> > > After that long delay, the following messages are displayed:
>> > >
>> > > [WARNING] repository metadata for: 'artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport'
>> could
>> > not be retrieved from repository: apache-repo due to an error: Operation
>> > timed out
>> > > [INFO] Repository 'apache-repo' will be blacklisted
>> > >
>> > > A similar repository element has been commented out in the
>> master/pom.xml
>> > file.  Could someone remove or update the edu-services pom.xml file?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks.
>> > >
>> > > Jim
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>> > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:05:24 -0400
>> > From: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Problem with pom.xml at root of
>> >        edu-services
>> > To: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > Cc: gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org, David Pang
>> >        <dxp at umich.edu>,        Sakai-Dev Developers
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>> > Is it possible that we are downloading
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.gradebook:gradebook-service-impl:jar:1.0.6
>> and
>> > that somehow depends on
>> >
>> org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport:jar:1.1.0-a02?
>> >
>> > The relevant part of the error message is shown below.  This occurs
>> while
>> > trying to build gradebook2 in a fresh checkout of sakai 2.7.1 (also in
>> sakai
>> > 2.7.x):
>> >
>> > [INFO]
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > [ERROR] BUILD ERROR
>> > [INFO]
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > [INFO] Failed to resolve artifact.
>> >
>> > Missing:
>> > ----------
>> > 1)
>> >
>> org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport:jar:1.1.0-a02
>> >
>> >  Try downloading the file manually from:
>> >      http://source.sakaiproject.org/maven2/
>> >
>> >  Then, install it using the command:
>> >      mvn install:install-file
>> > -DgroupId=org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections
>> > -DartifactId=sections-integrationsupport -Dversion=1.1.0-a02
>> -Dpackaging=jar
>> > -Dfile=/path/to/file
>> >
>> >  Alternatively, if you host your own repository you can deploy the file
>> > there:
>> >      mvn deploy:deploy-file
>> > -DgroupId=org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections
>> > -DartifactId=sections-integrationsupport -Dversion=1.1.0-a02
>> -Dpackaging=jar
>> > -Dfile=/path/to/file -Durl=[url] -DrepositoryId=[id]
>> >
>> >  Path to dependency:
>> >        1)
>> org.sakaiproject.gradebook2:gradebook2-model:jar:1.3.0-SNAPSHOT
>> >        2)
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.gradebook:gradebook-service-impl:jar:1.0.6
>> >        3)
>> >
>> org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport:jar:1.1.0-a02
>> >
>> > ----------
>> > 1 required artifact is missing.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:46 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> >
>> > > master/pom.xml defines this property:
>> > >
>> > > <sakai.edu-services.version>1.0.6</sakai.edu-services.version>
>> > >
>> > > I am not seeing any hardcoded versions in master, core-deploy,
>> sections
>> > or gradebook2.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Turns out there's another problem. Sakai 2.7.1 and 2.7.x seem to have
>> a
>> > mix of versions for edu-services.  After cleaning out everything from
>> > ~/.m2/repository/org/sakaiproject and starting to build full sakai
>> version
>> > 2.7.1, I find that sections-integrationsupport-1.0.6.jar has been put
>> into
>> > my m2 repo.  But when gradebook2 tries to find the sections-api jar, it
>> ends
>> > up using ${sakai.edu-services.version} when looking for that jar, and
>> > ${sakai.edu-services.version} seems to have a value of 1.1.0-a02 instead
>> of
>> > 1.0.6.
>> > >>
>> > >> I have been trying to unwind this to see why core-deply gets the
>> 1.0.6
>> > versions of various edu-services jars, but then the sections project
>> seems
>> > to want the 1.1.0-a02 versions.
>> > >>
>> > >> Jim
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Oct 20, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Anthony Whyte wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> I'll handle this.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Anth
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Matthew Jones wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Looks like Anthony removed this from master in November 2009?
>> > Searching email it's given people a lot of problems in various messages.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> >
>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai-dev/2010-January/005521.html
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu> wrote:
>> > >>>> What I meant was:  Could someone remove or update **the apache-repo
>> > repository element in** the edu-services pom.xml file?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> :-)
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> > The "repositories" tag in the root pom.xml file for edu-services
>> > includes the following repository element:
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> >        <repository>
>> > >>>> >            <id>apache-repo</id>
>> > >>>> >            <name>apache-repo</name>
>> > >>>> >            <layout>default</layout>
>> > >>>> >            <url>
>> > http://myfaces.zones.apache.org/dist/maven-repository</url>
>> > >>>> >            <releases>
>> > >>>> >                <enabled>true</enabled>
>> > >>>> >            </releases>
>> > >>>> >            <snapshots>
>> > >>>> >                <enabled>false</enabled>
>> > >>>> >            </snapshots>
>> > >>>> >        </repository>
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > This seems to be an invalid URL, and it causes problems when
>> doing a
>> > full build of sakai with gradebook2.  The build hangs at this point for
>> > several minutes before timing out:
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > [INFO] artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport:
>> checking
>> > for updates from apache-repo
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > After that long delay, the following messages are displayed:
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > [WARNING] repository metadata for: 'artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport'
>> could
>> > not be retrieved from repository: apache-repo due to an error: Operation
>> > timed out
>> > >>>> > [INFO] Repository 'apache-repo' will be blacklisted
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > A similar repository element has been commented out in the
>> > master/pom.xml file.  Could someone remove or update the edu-services
>> > pom.xml file?
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > Thanks.
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > Jim
>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________
>> > >>>> > sakai-dev mailing list
>> > >>>> > sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> > >>>> > http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev
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>> > Message: 4
>> > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:23:41 -0400
>> > From: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Problem with pom.xml at root of
>> >        edu-services
>> > To: "Maurer, Christopher Wayne" <chmaurer at iupui.edu>
>> > Cc: "gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org"
>> >        <gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>, David Pang <
>> dxp at umich.edu
>> > >,
>> >        Sakai-Dev Developers <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>> > Message-ID: <C9783BC1-23D3-483D-AAFE-570B572D27ED at umich.edu>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>> >
>> > Thanks, Chris. It looks like you are correct.  The last element in the
>> > dependencyManagement section of this pom.xml uses a range:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn//edu-services/tags/edu-services-1.0.6/pom.xml
>> >
>> > The gradebook2 build process depends on the jar, which is downloaded
>> rather
>> > than built locally.  That pom.xml file also includes a repository
>> element
>> > for apache-repo with a bogus URL.  I don't think we'll be able to build
>> > gradebook2 locally until that 1.0.6 jar is rebuilt without that range of
>> > versions and without the apache-repo element.
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
>> >
>> > On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Maurer, Christopher Wayne wrote:
>> >
>> > > Jim,
>> > > I think this is the same sort of issue that we just ran into at IU.
>> >  There are version ranges specified in the poms and apparently maven
>> isn't
>> > dealing with them properly.  What we were seeing was a dependency that
>> had a
>> > range like this:
>> > > <version>[2.7.0,2.8.0)</version>
>> > >
>> > > ?was pulling in the 2.8.0-alpha02 artifacts.
>> > > This caught us a bit off guard!  So, I expect that's the same thing
>> > you're seeing.  It's pulling in those alpha artifacts related to the 2.8
>> > release instead of the highest 2.7 artifact.
>> > >
>> > > Chris
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > From: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:46:24 -0400
>> > > To: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > > Cc: <gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>, David Pang <
>> dxp at umich.edu>,
>> > Sakai-Dev Developers <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>> > > Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Problem with pom.xml at root of
>> > edu-services
>> > >
>> > > master/pom.xml defines this property:
>> > >
>> > > <sakai.edu-services.version>1.0.6</sakai.edu-services.version>
>> > >
>> > > I am not seeing any hardcoded versions in master, core-deploy,
>> sections
>> > or gradebook2.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Turns out there's another problem. Sakai 2.7.1 and 2.7.x seem to have
>> a
>> > mix of versions for edu-services.  After cleaning out everything from
>> > ~/.m2/repository/org/sakaiproject and starting to build full sakai
>> version
>> > 2.7.1, I find that sections-integrationsupport-1.0.6.jar has been put
>> into
>> > my m2 repo.  But when gradebook2 tries to find the sections-api jar, it
>> ends
>> > up using ${sakai.edu-services.version} when looking for that jar, and
>> > ${sakai.edu-services.version} seems to have a value of 1.1.0-a02 instead
>> of
>> > 1.0.6.
>> > >>
>> > >> I have been trying to unwind this to see why core-deply gets the
>> 1.0.6
>> > versions of various edu-services jars, but then the sections project
>> seems
>> > to want the 1.1.0-a02 versions.
>> > >>
>> > >> Jim
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Oct 20, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Anthony Whyte wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> I'll handle this.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Anth
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Matthew Jones wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Looks like Anthony removed this from master in November 2009?
>> > Searching email it's given people a lot of problems in various messages.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> >
>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai-dev/2010-January/005521.html
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu> wrote:
>> > >>>>> What I meant was:  Could someone remove or update **the
>> apache-repo
>> > repository element in** the edu-services pom.xml file?
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> :-)
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> > The "repositories" tag in the root pom.xml file for edu-services
>> > includes the following repository element:
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> >        <repository>
>> > >>>>> >            <id>apache-repo</id>
>> > >>>>> >            <name>apache-repo</name>
>> > >>>>> >            <layout>default</layout>
>> > >>>>> >            <url>
>> > http://myfaces.zones.apache.org/dist/maven-repository</url>
>> > >>>>> >            <releases>
>> > >>>>> >                <enabled>true</enabled>
>> > >>>>> >            </releases>
>> > >>>>> >            <snapshots>
>> > >>>>> >                <enabled>false</enabled>
>> > >>>>> >            </snapshots>
>> > >>>>> >        </repository>
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > This seems to be an invalid URL, and it causes problems when
>> doing
>> > a full build of sakai with gradebook2.  The build hangs at this point
>> for
>> > several minutes before timing out:
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > [INFO] artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport:
>> checking
>> > for updates from apache-repo
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > After that long delay, the following messages are displayed:
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > [WARNING] repository metadata for: 'artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport'
>> could
>> > not be retrieved from repository: apache-repo due to an error: Operation
>> > timed out
>> > >>>>> > [INFO] Repository 'apache-repo' will be blacklisted
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > A similar repository element has been commented out in the
>> > master/pom.xml file.  Could someone remove or update the edu-services
>> > pom.xml file?
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > Thanks.
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > Jim
>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________
>> > >>>>> > sakai-dev mailing list
>> > >>>>> > sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> > >>>>> > http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev
>> > >>>>> >
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>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> > Message: 5
>> > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:24:59 -0400
>> > From: Noah Botimer <botimer at umich.edu>
>> > Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Problem with pom.xml at root of
>> >        edu-services
>> > To: sakai-dev <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>> > Message-ID: <9E57460B-1F19-4F91-A89E-BA00CF45B0F7 at umich.edu>
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>> >
>> > Maybe we can start up a FAQ / Troubleshooting Guide?
>> >
>> > We've been seeing a lot of these build / deployment / pom problems
>> tripping
>> > up some of our most experienced people, as well as newcomers.
>> >
>> > There's a lot of complexity in our packaging and it's hard to find good
>> > answers, check for (ill-)advised patterns, or debug problems quickly.
>> > Burning a half day of senior developer time at a crack on getting a
>> build
>> > going isn't really a best practice.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > -Noah
>> >
>> > On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> >
>> > > Is it possible that we are downloading
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.gradebook:gradebook-service-impl:jar:1.0.6
>> and
>> > that somehow depends on
>> >
>> org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport:jar:1.1.0-a02?
>> > >
>> > > The relevant part of the error message is shown below.  This occurs
>> while
>> > trying to build gradebook2 in a fresh checkout of sakai 2.7.1 (also in
>> sakai
>> > 2.7.x):
>> > >
>> > > [INFO]
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > [ERROR] BUILD ERROR
>> > > [INFO]
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > [INFO] Failed to resolve artifact.
>> > >
>> > > Missing:
>> > > ----------
>> > > 1)
>> >
>> org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport:jar:1.1.0-a02
>> > >
>> > >   Try downloading the file manually from:
>> > >       http://source.sakaiproject.org/maven2/
>> > >
>> > >   Then, install it using the command:
>> > >       mvn install:install-file
>> > -DgroupId=org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections
>> > -DartifactId=sections-integrationsupport -Dversion=1.1.0-a02
>> -Dpackaging=jar
>> > -Dfile=/path/to/file
>> > >
>> > >   Alternatively, if you host your own repository you can deploy the
>> file
>> > there:
>> > >       mvn deploy:deploy-file
>> > -DgroupId=org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections
>> > -DartifactId=sections-integrationsupport -Dversion=1.1.0-a02
>> -Dpackaging=jar
>> > -Dfile=/path/to/file -Durl=[url] -DrepositoryId=[id]
>> > >
>> > >   Path to dependency:
>> > >       1)
>> org.sakaiproject.gradebook2:gradebook2-model:jar:1.3.0-SNAPSHOT
>> > >       2)
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.gradebook:gradebook-service-impl:jar:1.0.6
>> > >       3)
>> >
>> org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport:jar:1.1.0-a02
>> > >
>> > > ----------
>> > > 1 required artifact is missing.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:46 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> master/pom.xml defines this property:
>> > >>
>> > >> <sakai.edu-services.version>1.0.6</sakai.edu-services.version>
>> > >>
>> > >> I am not seeing any hardcoded versions in master, core-deploy,
>> sections
>> > or gradebook2.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Turns out there's another problem. Sakai 2.7.1 and 2.7.x seem to
>> have a
>> > mix of versions for edu-services.  After cleaning out everything from
>> > ~/.m2/repository/org/sakaiproject and starting to build full sakai
>> version
>> > 2.7.1, I find that sections-integrationsupport-1.0.6.jar has been put
>> into
>> > my m2 repo.  But when gradebook2 tries to find the sections-api jar, it
>> ends
>> > up using ${sakai.edu-services.version} when looking for that jar, and
>> > ${sakai.edu-services.version} seems to have a value of 1.1.0-a02 instead
>> of
>> > 1.0.6.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I have been trying to unwind this to see why core-deply gets the
>> 1.0.6
>> > versions of various edu-services jars, but then the sections project
>> seems
>> > to want the 1.1.0-a02 versions.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Jim
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Anthony Whyte wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> I'll handle this.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Anth
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Matthew Jones wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> Looks like Anthony removed this from master in November 2009?
>> > Searching email it's given people a lot of problems in various messages.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> >
>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai-dev/2010-January/005521.html
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>> What I meant was:  Could someone remove or update **the
>> apache-repo
>> > repository element in** the edu-services pom.xml file?
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> :-)
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> > The "repositories" tag in the root pom.xml file for edu-services
>> > includes the following repository element:
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> >        <repository>
>> > >>>>> >            <id>apache-repo</id>
>> > >>>>> >            <name>apache-repo</name>
>> > >>>>> >            <layout>default</layout>
>> > >>>>> >            <url>
>> > http://myfaces.zones.apache.org/dist/maven-repository</url>
>> > >>>>> >            <releases>
>> > >>>>> >                <enabled>true</enabled>
>> > >>>>> >            </releases>
>> > >>>>> >            <snapshots>
>> > >>>>> >                <enabled>false</enabled>
>> > >>>>> >            </snapshots>
>> > >>>>> >        </repository>
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > This seems to be an invalid URL, and it causes problems when
>> doing
>> > a full build of sakai with gradebook2.  The build hangs at this point
>> for
>> > several minutes before timing out:
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > [INFO] artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport:
>> checking
>> > for updates from apache-repo
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > After that long delay, the following messages are displayed:
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > [WARNING] repository metadata for: 'artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport'
>> could
>> > not be retrieved from repository: apache-repo due to an error: Operation
>> > timed out
>> > >>>>> > [INFO] Repository 'apache-repo' will be blacklisted
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > A similar repository element has been commented out in the
>> > master/pom.xml file.  Could someone remove or update the edu-services
>> > pom.xml file?
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > Thanks.
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > Jim
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>> > Message: 6
>> > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 16:21:19 -0400
>> > From: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Problem with pom.xml at root of
>> >        edu-services
>> > To: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > Cc: "gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org"
>> >        <gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>,       Sakai-Dev
>> > Developers
>> >        <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>,    David Pang <
>> dxp at umich.edu>
>> > Message-ID: <CE6071AA-5FA6-4B0D-B0C5-2A21192CAF47 at umich.edu>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>> >
>> > We need to eliminate the apache-repo references in all pom.xml files,
>> but
>> > that is really just an annoyance that mostly slows down the build
>> process
>> > for developers.
>> >
>> > On the other hand, the use of ranges for versions in poms for "released"
>> > versions of a project should be considered a blocker.  In this case, it
>> > looks like the correct version would have been "${project.version}"
>> rather
>> > than "[1.0.0-1.1.0)".
>> >
>> > What is needed to get this fixed?  Does it require building edu-services
>> > 1.0.7 and replacing all references to edu-services 1.0.6 with
>> edu-services
>> > 1.0.7?
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
>> >
>> > On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> >
>> > > Thanks, Chris. It looks like you are correct.  The last element in the
>> > dependencyManagement section of this pom.xml uses a range:
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn//edu-services/tags/edu-services-1.0.6/pom.xml
>> > >
>> > > The gradebook2 build process depends on the jar, which is downloaded
>> > rather than built locally.  That pom.xml file also includes a repository
>> > element for apache-repo with a bogus URL.  I don't think we'll be able
>> to
>> > build gradebook2 locally until that 1.0.6 jar is rebuilt without that
>> range
>> > of versions and without the apache-repo element.
>> > >
>> > > Jim
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Maurer, Christopher Wayne wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Jim,
>> > >> I think this is the same sort of issue that we just ran into at IU.
>> >  There are version ranges specified in the poms and apparently maven
>> isn't
>> > dealing with them properly.  What we were seeing was a dependency that
>> had a
>> > range like this:
>> > >> <version>[2.7.0,2.8.0)</version>
>> > >>
>> > >> ?was pulling in the 2.8.0-alpha02 artifacts.
>> > >> This caught us a bit off guard!  So, I expect that's the same thing
>> > you're seeing.  It's pulling in those alpha artifacts related to the 2.8
>> > release instead of the highest 2.7 artifact.
>> > >>
>> > >> Chris
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> From: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > >> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:46:24 -0400
>> > >> To: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > >> Cc: <gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>, David Pang <
>> dxp at umich.edu>,
>> > Sakai-Dev Developers <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>> > >> Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Problem with pom.xml at root of
>> > edu-services
>> > >>
>> > >> master/pom.xml defines this property:
>> > >>
>> > >> <sakai.edu-services.version>1.0.6</sakai.edu-services.version>
>> > >>
>> > >> I am not seeing any hardcoded versions in master, core-deploy,
>> sections
>> > or gradebook2.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Turns out there's another problem. Sakai 2.7.1 and 2.7.x seem to
>> have a
>> > mix of versions for edu-services.  After cleaning out everything from
>> > ~/.m2/repository/org/sakaiproject and starting to build full sakai
>> version
>> > 2.7.1, I find that sections-integrationsupport-1.0.6.jar has been put
>> into
>> > my m2 repo.  But when gradebook2 tries to find the sections-api jar, it
>> ends
>> > up using ${sakai.edu-services.version} when looking for that jar, and
>> > ${sakai.edu-services.version} seems to have a value of 1.1.0-a02 instead
>> of
>> > 1.0.6.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I have been trying to unwind this to see why core-deply gets the
>> 1.0.6
>> > versions of various edu-services jars, but then the sections project
>> seems
>> > to want the 1.1.0-a02 versions.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Jim
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Anthony Whyte wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> I'll handle this.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Anth
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Matthew Jones wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> Looks like Anthony removed this from master in November 2009?
>> > Searching email it's given people a lot of problems in various messages.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> >
>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai-dev/2010-January/005521.html
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>> What I meant was:  Could someone remove or update **the
>> apache-repo
>> > repository element in** the edu-services pom.xml file?
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> :-)
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> > The "repositories" tag in the root pom.xml file for
>> edu-services
>> > includes the following repository element:
>> > >>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>> >        <repository>
>> > >>>>>> >            <id>apache-repo</id>
>> > >>>>>> >            <name>apache-repo</name>
>> > >>>>>> >            <layout>default</layout>
>> > >>>>>> >            <url>
>> > http://myfaces.zones.apache.org/dist/maven-repository</url>
>> > >>>>>> >            <releases>
>> > >>>>>> >                <enabled>true</enabled>
>> > >>>>>> >            </releases>
>> > >>>>>> >            <snapshots>
>> > >>>>>> >                <enabled>false</enabled>
>> > >>>>>> >            </snapshots>
>> > >>>>>> >        </repository>
>> > >>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>> > This seems to be an invalid URL, and it causes problems when
>> doing
>> > a full build of sakai with gradebook2.  The build hangs at this point
>> for
>> > several minutes before timing out:
>> > >>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>> > [INFO] artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport:
>> checking
>> > for updates from apache-repo
>> > >>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>> > After that long delay, the following messages are displayed:
>> > >>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>> > [WARNING] repository metadata for: 'artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport'
>> could
>> > not be retrieved from repository: apache-repo due to an error: Operation
>> > timed out
>> > >>>>>> > [INFO] Repository 'apache-repo' will be blacklisted
>> > >>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>> > A similar repository element has been commented out in the
>> > master/pom.xml file.  Could someone remove or update the edu-services
>> > pom.xml file?
>> > >>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>> > Thanks.
>> > >>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>> > Jim
>> > >>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>> > >>>>>> > sakai-dev mailing list
>> > >>>>>> > sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
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>> > Message: 7
>> > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 07:51:42 +1100
>> > From: Steve Swinsburg <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Problem with pom.xml at root of
>> >        edu-services
>> > To: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > Cc: "gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org"
>> >        <gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>,       Sakai-Dev
>> > Developers
>> >        <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>,    David Pang <
>> dxp at umich.edu>
>> > Message-ID: <047DCBE0-90BD-46A3-BA99-8ABBA74A1724 at gmail.com>
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>> >
>> > When building 2.7, you need to blow away that portion of your local
>> Maven
>> > repo so that it doesn't have the newer 2.8 artifacts in there.
>> >
>> > But I agree that a specific version should be used so as to eliminate
>> this
>> > issue.
>> >
>> > cheers,
>> > Steve
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 22/10/2010, at 7:21 AM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> >
>> > > We need to eliminate the apache-repo references in all pom.xml files,
>> but
>> > that is really just an annoyance that mostly slows down the build
>> process
>> > for developers.
>> > >
>> > > On the other hand, the use of ranges for versions in poms for
>> "released"
>> > versions of a project should be considered a blocker.  In this case, it
>> > looks like the correct version would have been "${project.version}"
>> rather
>> > than "[1.0.0-1.1.0)".
>> > >
>> > > What is needed to get this fixed?  Does it require building
>> edu-services
>> > 1.0.7 and replacing all references to edu-services 1.0.6 with
>> edu-services
>> > 1.0.7?
>> > >
>> > > Jim
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Thanks, Chris. It looks like you are correct.  The last element in
>> the
>> > dependencyManagement section of this pom.xml uses a range:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn//edu-services/tags/edu-services-1.0.6/pom.xml
>> > >>
>> > >> The gradebook2 build process depends on the jar, which is downloaded
>> > rather than built locally.  That pom.xml file also includes a repository
>> > element for apache-repo with a bogus URL.  I don't think we'll be able
>> to
>> > build gradebook2 locally until that 1.0.6 jar is rebuilt without that
>> range
>> > of versions and without the apache-repo element.
>> > >>
>> > >> Jim
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Maurer, Christopher Wayne wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Jim,
>> > >>> I think this is the same sort of issue that we just ran into at IU.
>> >  There are version ranges specified in the poms and apparently maven
>> isn't
>> > dealing with them properly.  What we were seeing was a dependency that
>> had a
>> > range like this:
>> > >>> <version>[2.7.0,2.8.0)</version>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> ?was pulling in the 2.8.0-alpha02 artifacts.
>> > >>> This caught us a bit off guard!  So, I expect that's the same thing
>> > you're seeing.  It's pulling in those alpha artifacts related to the 2.8
>> > release instead of the highest 2.7 artifact.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Chris
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> From: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > >>> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:46:24 -0400
>> > >>> To: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > >>> Cc: <gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>, David Pang <
>> > dxp at umich.edu>, Sakai-Dev Developers <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> >
>> > >>> Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Problem with pom.xml at root of
>> > edu-services
>> > >>>
>> > >>> master/pom.xml defines this property:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> <sakai.edu-services.version>1.0.6</sakai.edu-services.version>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I am not seeing any hardcoded versions in master, core-deploy,
>> sections
>> > or gradebook2.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Turns out there's another problem. Sakai 2.7.1 and 2.7.x seem to
>> have
>> > a mix of versions for edu-services.  After cleaning out everything from
>> > ~/.m2/repository/org/sakaiproject and starting to build full sakai
>> version
>> > 2.7.1, I find that sections-integrationsupport-1.0.6.jar has been put
>> into
>> > my m2 repo.  But when gradebook2 tries to find the sections-api jar, it
>> ends
>> > up using ${sakai.edu-services.version} when looking for that jar, and
>> > ${sakai.edu-services.version} seems to have a value of 1.1.0-a02 instead
>> of
>> > 1.0.6.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> I have been trying to unwind this to see why core-deply gets the
>> 1.0.6
>> > versions of various edu-services jars, but then the sections project
>> seems
>> > to want the 1.1.0-a02 versions.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Jim
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Anthony Whyte wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> I'll handle this.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Anth
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Matthew Jones wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Looks like Anthony removed this from master in November 2009?
>> > Searching email it's given people a lot of problems in various messages.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> >
>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai-dev/2010-January/005521.html
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>> What I meant was:  Could someone remove or update **the
>> apache-repo
>> > repository element in** the edu-services pom.xml file?
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> :-)
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> > The "repositories" tag in the root pom.xml file for
>> edu-services
>> > includes the following repository element:
>> > >>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>> >        <repository>
>> > >>>>>>> >            <id>apache-repo</id>
>> > >>>>>>> >            <name>apache-repo</name>
>> > >>>>>>> >            <layout>default</layout>
>> > >>>>>>> >            <url>
>> > http://myfaces.zones.apache.org/dist/maven-repository</url>
>> > >>>>>>> >            <releases>
>> > >>>>>>> >                <enabled>true</enabled>
>> > >>>>>>> >            </releases>
>> > >>>>>>> >            <snapshots>
>> > >>>>>>> >                <enabled>false</enabled>
>> > >>>>>>> >            </snapshots>
>> > >>>>>>> >        </repository>
>> > >>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>> > This seems to be an invalid URL, and it causes problems when
>> > doing a full build of sakai with gradebook2.  The build hangs at this
>> point
>> > for several minutes before timing out:
>> > >>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>> > [INFO] artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport:
>> checking
>> > for updates from apache-repo
>> > >>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>> > After that long delay, the following messages are displayed:
>> > >>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>> > [WARNING] repository metadata for: 'artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport'
>> could
>> > not be retrieved from repository: apache-repo due to an error: Operation
>> > timed out
>> > >>>>>>> > [INFO] Repository 'apache-repo' will be blacklisted
>> > >>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>> > A similar repository element has been commented out in the
>> > master/pom.xml file.  Could someone remove or update the edu-services
>> > pom.xml file?
>> > >>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>> > Thanks.
>> > >>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>> > Jim
>> > >>>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>> > >>>>>>> > sakai-dev mailing list
>> > >>>>>>> > sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> > >>>>>>> > http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev
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>> > Message: 8
>> > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 17:50:55 -0400
>> > From: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Problem with pom.xml at root of
>> >        edu-services
>> > To: Steve Swinsburg <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>
>> > Cc: "gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org"
>> >        <gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>,       Sakai-Dev
>> > Developers
>> >        <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>,    David Pang <
>> dxp at umich.edu>
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>> > Actually, this does not cause as much of a problem (at least at build
>> time)
>> > if you have old 2.8 artifacts in your repo.  It's a problem when you
>> don't
>> > have them because some of them are no longer available from remote
>> repos.
>> >  If maven decides it needs version 1.1.0-a02 of a particular jar and it
>> is
>> > no longer in the local repo or any remote repo, and it can't be built
>> > locally, that causes the build to fail.  And short of checking out
>> source
>> > for edu-services, fixing the errors in the pom files, and building it
>> > locally, there is no way to get gradebook2 to build with 2.7.
>> >
>> > This is not just a problem for gradebook2.  Any other project that
>> depends
>> > on sections (and probably other edu-services jars) will have similar
>> > problems until this is fixed.
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
>> >
>> > On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Steve Swinsburg wrote:
>> >
>> > > When building 2.7, you need to blow away that portion of your local
>> Maven
>> > repo so that it doesn't have the newer 2.8 artifacts in there.
>> > >
>> > > But I agree that a specific version should be used so as to eliminate
>> > this issue.
>> > >
>> > > cheers,
>> > > Steve
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 22/10/2010, at 7:21 AM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> We need to eliminate the apache-repo references in all pom.xml files,
>> > but that is really just an annoyance that mostly slows down the build
>> > process for developers.
>> > >>
>> > >> On the other hand, the use of ranges for versions in poms for
>> "released"
>> > versions of a project should be considered a blocker.  In this case, it
>> > looks like the correct version would have been "${project.version}"
>> rather
>> > than "[1.0.0-1.1.0)".
>> > >>
>> > >> What is needed to get this fixed?  Does it require building
>> edu-services
>> > 1.0.7 and replacing all references to edu-services 1.0.6 with
>> edu-services
>> > 1.0.7?
>> > >>
>> > >> Jim
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Thanks, Chris. It looks like you are correct.  The last element in
>> the
>> > dependencyManagement section of this pom.xml uses a range:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> >
>> https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn//edu-services/tags/edu-services-1.0.6/pom.xml
>> > >>>
>> > >>> The gradebook2 build process depends on the jar, which is downloaded
>> > rather than built locally.  That pom.xml file also includes a repository
>> > element for apache-repo with a bogus URL.  I don't think we'll be able
>> to
>> > build gradebook2 locally until that 1.0.6 jar is rebuilt without that
>> range
>> > of versions and without the apache-repo element.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Jim
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Maurer, Christopher Wayne wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Jim,
>> > >>>> I think this is the same sort of issue that we just ran into at IU.
>> >  There are version ranges specified in the poms and apparently maven
>> isn't
>> > dealing with them properly.  What we were seeing was a dependency that
>> had a
>> > range like this:
>> > >>>> <version>[2.7.0,2.8.0)</version>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> ?was pulling in the 2.8.0-alpha02 artifacts.
>> > >>>> This caught us a bit off guard!  So, I expect that's the same thing
>> > you're seeing.  It's pulling in those alpha artifacts related to the 2.8
>> > release instead of the highest 2.7 artifact.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Chris
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> From: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > >>>> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:46:24 -0400
>> > >>>> To: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > >>>> Cc: <gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>, David Pang <
>> > dxp at umich.edu>, Sakai-Dev Developers <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> >
>> > >>>> Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Problem with pom.xml at root of
>> > edu-services
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> master/pom.xml defines this property:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> <sakai.edu-services.version>1.0.6</sakai.edu-services.version>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> I am not seeing any hardcoded versions in master, core-deploy,
>> > sections or gradebook2.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> Turns out there's another problem. Sakai 2.7.1 and 2.7.x seem to
>> have
>> > a mix of versions for edu-services.  After cleaning out everything from
>> > ~/.m2/repository/org/sakaiproject and starting to build full sakai
>> version
>> > 2.7.1, I find that sections-integrationsupport-1.0.6.jar has been put
>> into
>> > my m2 repo.  But when gradebook2 tries to find the sections-api jar, it
>> ends
>> > up using ${sakai.edu-services.version} when looking for that jar, and
>> > ${sakai.edu-services.version} seems to have a value of 1.1.0-a02 instead
>> of
>> > 1.0.6.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> I have been trying to unwind this to see why core-deply gets the
>> > 1.0.6 versions of various edu-services jars, but then the sections
>> project
>> > seems to want the 1.1.0-a02 versions.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Jim
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Anthony Whyte wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> I'll handle this.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Anth
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Matthew Jones wrote:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Looks like Anthony removed this from master in November 2009?
>> > Searching email it's given people a lot of problems in various messages.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> >
>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai-dev/2010-January/005521.html
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>> What I meant was:  Could someone remove or update **the
>> > apache-repo repository element in** the edu-services pom.xml file?
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> :-)
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> > The "repositories" tag in the root pom.xml file for
>> edu-services
>> > includes the following repository element:
>> > >>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>> >        <repository>
>> > >>>>>>>> >            <id>apache-repo</id>
>> > >>>>>>>> >            <name>apache-repo</name>
>> > >>>>>>>> >            <layout>default</layout>
>> > >>>>>>>> >            <url>
>> > http://myfaces.zones.apache.org/dist/maven-repository</url>
>> > >>>>>>>> >            <releases>
>> > >>>>>>>> >                <enabled>true</enabled>
>> > >>>>>>>> >            </releases>
>> > >>>>>>>> >            <snapshots>
>> > >>>>>>>> >                <enabled>false</enabled>
>> > >>>>>>>> >            </snapshots>
>> > >>>>>>>> >        </repository>
>> > >>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>> > This seems to be an invalid URL, and it causes problems when
>> > doing a full build of sakai with gradebook2.  The build hangs at this
>> point
>> > for several minutes before timing out:
>> > >>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>> > [INFO] artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport:
>> checking
>> > for updates from apache-repo
>> > >>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>> > After that long delay, the following messages are displayed:
>> > >>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>> > [WARNING] repository metadata for: 'artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport'
>> could
>> > not be retrieved from repository: apache-repo due to an error: Operation
>> > timed out
>> > >>>>>>>> > [INFO] Repository 'apache-repo' will be blacklisted
>> > >>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>> > A similar repository element has been commented out in the
>> > master/pom.xml file.  Could someone remove or update the edu-services
>> > pom.xml file?
>> > >>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>> > Thanks.
>> > >>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>> > Jim
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>> > Message: 9
>> > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 17:59:06 -0400
>> > From: Anthony Whyte <arwhyte at umich.edu>
>> > Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Problem with pom.xml at root of
>> >        edu-services
>> > To: Noah Botimer <botimer at umich.edu>
>> > Cc: sakai-dev <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>> > Message-ID: <7C2F608F-213E-421E-8D4F-73CBE814289B at umich.edu>
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>> >
>> > The 2.8.0-a01 / a02 tags are considered by Maven as inside the Maven
>> > version range [2.7.0, 2.8.0) if I am interpreting the following rule
>> > correctly:
>> >
>> > "if qualifier does not exist, it is newer than if it does"
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Dependency+Mediation+and+Conflict+Resolution
>> > "For ordering, the following is done in order until an element is found
>> > that are not equal:
>> >
>> > numerical comparison of major version
>> > numerical comparison of minor version
>> > if revision does not exist, add ".0" for comparison purposes
>> > numerical comparison of revision
>> > if qualifier does not exist, it is newer than if it does
>> > case-insensitive string comparison of qualifier
>> > this ensures timestamps are correctly ordered, and SNAPSHOT is newer
>> than
>> > an equivalent timestamp
>> > this also ensures that beta comes after alpha, as does rc
>> > if no qualifier, and build does not exist, add "-0" for comparison
>> purposes
>> > numerical comparison of build"
>> > Starting tomorrow I'll yank the version ranges out of 2.7.x-related
>> > projects (including indies) and in the case of the latter, generate new
>> > releases as required that will be deployed by 2.7.x.  If necessary we
>> can
>> > also roll a sakai-2.7.2 maintenance release.
>> >
>> > There are no version ranges used in trunk, 2.8.x or 2.8-related indies.
>> >
>> > ~Anth
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Noah Botimer wrote:
>> >
>> > > Maybe we can start up a FAQ / Troubleshooting Guide?
>> > >
>> > > We've been seeing a lot of these build / deployment / pom problems
>> > tripping up some of our most experienced people, as well as newcomers.
>> > >
>> > > There's a lot of complexity in our packaging and it's hard to find
>> good
>> > answers, check for (ill-)advised patterns, or debug problems quickly.
>> > Burning a half day of senior developer time at a crack on getting a
>> build
>> > going isn't really a best practice.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > -Noah
>> > >
>> > > On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Is it possible that we are downloading
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.gradebook:gradebook-service-impl:jar:1.0.6
>> and
>> > that somehow depends on
>> >
>> org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport:jar:1.1.0-a02?
>> > >>
>> > >> The relevant part of the error message is shown below.  This occurs
>> > while trying to build gradebook2 in a fresh checkout of sakai 2.7.1
>> (also in
>> > sakai 2.7.x):
>> > >>
>> > >> [INFO]
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >> [ERROR] BUILD ERROR
>> > >> [INFO]
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >> [INFO] Failed to resolve artifact.
>> > >>
>> > >> Missing:
>> > >> ----------
>> > >> 1)
>> >
>> org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport:jar:1.1.0-a02
>> > >>
>> > >>   Try downloading the file manually from:
>> > >>       http://source.sakaiproject.org/maven2/
>> > >>
>> > >>   Then, install it using the command:
>> > >>       mvn install:install-file
>> > -DgroupId=org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections
>> > -DartifactId=sections-integrationsupport -Dversion=1.1.0-a02
>> -Dpackaging=jar
>> > -Dfile=/path/to/file
>> > >>
>> > >>   Alternatively, if you host your own repository you can deploy the
>> file
>> > there:
>> > >>       mvn deploy:deploy-file
>> > -DgroupId=org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections
>> > -DartifactId=sections-integrationsupport -Dversion=1.1.0-a02
>> -Dpackaging=jar
>> > -Dfile=/path/to/file -Durl=[url] -DrepositoryId=[id]
>> > >>
>> > >>   Path to dependency:
>> > >>      1)
>> org.sakaiproject.gradebook2:gradebook2-model:jar:1.3.0-SNAPSHOT
>> > >>      2)
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.gradebook:gradebook-service-impl:jar:1.0.6
>> > >>      3)
>> >
>> org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport:jar:1.1.0-a02
>> > >>
>> > >> ----------
>> > >> 1 required artifact is missing.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:46 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> master/pom.xml defines this property:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> <sakai.edu-services.version>1.0.6</sakai.edu-services.version>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I am not seeing any hardcoded versions in master, core-deploy,
>> sections
>> > or gradebook2.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Turns out there's another problem. Sakai 2.7.1 and 2.7.x seem to
>> have
>> > a mix of versions for edu-services.  After cleaning out everything from
>> > ~/.m2/repository/org/sakaiproject and starting to build full sakai
>> version
>> > 2.7.1, I find that sections-integrationsupport-1.0.6.jar has been put
>> into
>> > my m2 repo.  But when gradebook2 tries to find the sections-api jar, it
>> ends
>> > up using ${sakai.edu-services.version} when looking for that jar, and
>> > ${sakai.edu-services.version} seems to have a value of 1.1.0-a02 instead
>> of
>> > 1.0.6.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> I have been trying to unwind this to see why core-deply gets the
>> 1.0.6
>> > versions of various edu-services jars, but then the sections project
>> seems
>> > to want the 1.1.0-a02 versions.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Jim
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Anthony Whyte wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> I'll handle this.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Anth
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Matthew Jones wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Looks like Anthony removed this from master in November 2009?
>> > Searching email it's given people a lot of problems in various messages.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> >
>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai-dev/2010-January/005521.html
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>> What I meant was:  Could someone remove or update **the
>> apache-repo
>> > repository element in** the edu-services pom.xml file?
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> :-)
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> > The "repositories" tag in the root pom.xml file for
>> edu-services
>> > includes the following repository element:
>> > >>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>> >        <repository>
>> > >>>>>> >            <id>apache-repo</id>
>> > >>>>>> >            <name>apache-repo</name>
>> > >>>>>> >            <layout>default</layout>
>> > >>>>>> >            <url>
>> > http://myfaces.zones.apache.org/dist/maven-repository</url>
>> > >>>>>> >            <releases>
>> > >>>>>> >                <enabled>true</enabled>
>> > >>>>>> >            </releases>
>> > >>>>>> >            <snapshots>
>> > >>>>>> >                <enabled>false</enabled>
>> > >>>>>> >            </snapshots>
>> > >>>>>> >        </repository>
>> > >>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>> > This seems to be an invalid URL, and it causes problems when
>> doing
>> > a full build of sakai with gradebook2.  The build hangs at this point
>> for
>> > several minutes before timing out:
>> > >>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>> > [INFO] artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport:
>> checking
>> > for updates from apache-repo
>> > >>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>> > After that long delay, the following messages are displayed:
>> > >>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>> > [WARNING] repository metadata for: 'artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport'
>> could
>> > not be retrieved from repository: apache-repo due to an error: Operation
>> > timed out
>> > >>>>>> > [INFO] Repository 'apache-repo' will be blacklisted
>> > >>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>> > A similar repository element has been commented out in the
>> > master/pom.xml file.  Could someone remove or update the edu-services
>> > pom.xml file?
>> > >>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>> > Thanks.
>> > >>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>> > Jim
>> > > _______________________________________________
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>> > Message: 10
>> > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 18:25:51 -0400
>> > From: Anthony Whyte <arwhyte at umich.edu>
>> > Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Problem with pom.xml at root of
>> >        edu-services
>> > To: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > Cc: David Pang <dxp at umich.edu>,
>> >        "gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org"
>> >        <gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>,       Sakai-Dev
>> > Developers
>> >        <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
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>> >
>> > We don't delete stable binaries from our Sakai Mavn2 repo so the
>> scenario
>> > described in the sentence below insofar as it pertains to Sakai
>> artifacts
>> > ("1.1.0-a02 . . . is no longer in  . . . any remote repo") should rank
>> > pretty low when one is seeking to account for a build failure.
>> >
>> > > If maven decides it needs version 1.1.0-a02 of a particular jar and it
>> is
>> > no longer in the local repo or any remote repo, and it can't be built
>> > locally, that causes the build to fail.
>> >
>> >
>> > Recall, however that we generate no binaries for "monolithic" Sakai
>> (e.g.,
>> > non-indies) during the alpha, beta, rc phases prior to a release.  If
>> for
>> > some reason you decide to declare a dependency on
>> > assignments-api-2.8-SNAPSHOT, you better have the jar in your local .m2
>> repo
>> > because you'll never retrieve it remotely (until such a time as we
>> choose to
>> > repackage assignments).
>> >
>> > ~Anth
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Oct 21, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> >
>> > > Actually, this does not cause as much of a problem (at least at build
>> > time) if you have old 2.8 artifacts in your repo.  It's a problem when
>> you
>> > don't have them because some of them are no longer available from remote
>> > repos.  If maven decides it needs version 1.1.0-a02 of a particular jar
>> and
>> > it is no longer in the local repo or any remote repo, and it can't be
>> built
>> > locally, that causes the build to fail.  And short of checking out
>> source
>> > for edu-services, fixing the errors in the pom files, and building it
>> > locally, there is no way to get gradebook2 to build with 2.7.
>> > >
>> > > This is not just a problem for gradebook2.  Any other project that
>> > depends on sections (and probably other edu-services jars) will have
>> similar
>> > problems until this is fixed.
>> > >
>> > > Jim
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Steve Swinsburg wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> When building 2.7, you need to blow away that portion of your local
>> > Maven repo so that it doesn't have the newer 2.8 artifacts in there.
>> > >>
>> > >> But I agree that a specific version should be used so as to eliminate
>> > this issue.
>> > >>
>> > >> cheers,
>> > >> Steve
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On 22/10/2010, at 7:21 AM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> We need to eliminate the apache-repo references in all pom.xml
>> files,
>> > but that is really just an annoyance that mostly slows down the build
>> > process for developers.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On the other hand, the use of ranges for versions in poms for
>> > "released" versions of a project should be considered a blocker.  In
>> this
>> > case, it looks like the correct version would have been
>> "${project.version}"
>> > rather than "[1.0.0-1.1.0)".
>> > >>>
>> > >>> What is needed to get this fixed?  Does it require building
>> > edu-services 1.0.7 and replacing all references to edu-services 1.0.6
>> with
>> > edu-services 1.0.7?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Jim
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Thanks, Chris. It looks like you are correct.  The last element in
>> the
>> > dependencyManagement section of this pom.xml uses a range:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> >
>> https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn//edu-services/tags/edu-services-1.0.6/pom.xml
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> The gradebook2 build process depends on the jar, which is
>> downloaded
>> > rather than built locally.  That pom.xml file also includes a repository
>> > element for apache-repo with a bogus URL.  I don't think we'll be able
>> to
>> > build gradebook2 locally until that 1.0.6 jar is rebuilt without that
>> range
>> > of versions and without the apache-repo element.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Jim
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Maurer, Christopher Wayne wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> Jim,
>> > >>>>> I think this is the same sort of issue that we just ran into at
>> IU.
>> >  There are version ranges specified in the poms and apparently maven
>> isn't
>> > dealing with them properly.  What we were seeing was a dependency that
>> had a
>> > range like this:
>> > >>>>> <version>[2.7.0,2.8.0)</version>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> ?was pulling in the 2.8.0-alpha02 artifacts.
>> > >>>>> This caught us a bit off guard!  So, I expect that's the same
>> thing
>> > you're seeing.  It's pulling in those alpha artifacts related to the 2.8
>> > release instead of the highest 2.7 artifact.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Chris
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> From: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > >>>>> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:46:24 -0400
>> > >>>>> To: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > >>>>> Cc: <gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>, David Pang <
>> > dxp at umich.edu>, Sakai-Dev Developers <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> >
>> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Problem with pom.xml at root of
>> > edu-services
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> master/pom.xml defines this property:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> <sakai.edu-services.version>1.0.6</sakai.edu-services.version>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> I am not seeing any hardcoded versions in master, core-deploy,
>> > sections or gradebook2.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Turns out there's another problem. Sakai 2.7.1 and 2.7.x seem to
>> > have a mix of versions for edu-services.  After cleaning out everything
>> from
>> > ~/.m2/repository/org/sakaiproject and starting to build full sakai
>> version
>> > 2.7.1, I find that sections-integrationsupport-1.0.6.jar has been put
>> into
>> > my m2 repo.  But when gradebook2 tries to find the sections-api jar, it
>> ends
>> > up using ${sakai.edu-services.version} when looking for that jar, and
>> > ${sakai.edu-services.version} seems to have a value of 1.1.0-a02 instead
>> of
>> > 1.0.6.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> I have been trying to unwind this to see why core-deply gets the
>> > 1.0.6 versions of various edu-services jars, but then the sections
>> project
>> > seems to want the 1.1.0-a02 versions.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Jim
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Anthony Whyte wrote:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> I'll handle this.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Anth
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Matthew Jones wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Looks like Anthony removed this from master in November 2009?
>> > Searching email it's given people a lot of problems in various messages.
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >
>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai-dev/2010-January/005521.html
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>> What I meant was:  Could someone remove or update **the
>> > apache-repo repository element in** the edu-services pom.xml file?
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> :-)
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> > The "repositories" tag in the root pom.xml file for
>> > edu-services includes the following repository element:
>> > >>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>> >        <repository>
>> > >>>>>>>>> >            <id>apache-repo</id>
>> > >>>>>>>>> >            <name>apache-repo</name>
>> > >>>>>>>>> >            <layout>default</layout>
>> > >>>>>>>>> >            <url>
>> > http://myfaces.zones.apache.org/dist/maven-repository</url>
>> > >>>>>>>>> >            <releases>
>> > >>>>>>>>> >                <enabled>true</enabled>
>> > >>>>>>>>> >            </releases>
>> > >>>>>>>>> >            <snapshots>
>> > >>>>>>>>> >                <enabled>false</enabled>
>> > >>>>>>>>> >            </snapshots>
>> > >>>>>>>>> >        </repository>
>> > >>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>> > This seems to be an invalid URL, and it causes problems when
>> > doing a full build of sakai with gradebook2.  The build hangs at this
>> point
>> > for several minutes before timing out:
>> > >>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>> > [INFO] artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport:
>> checking
>> > for updates from apache-repo
>> > >>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>> > After that long delay, the following messages are displayed:
>> > >>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>> > [WARNING] repository metadata for: 'artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport'
>> could
>> > not be retrieved from repository: apache-repo due to an error: Operation
>> > timed out
>> > >>>>>>>>> > [INFO] Repository 'apache-repo' will be blacklisted
>> > >>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>> > A similar repository element has been commented out in the
>> > master/pom.xml file.  Could someone remove or update the edu-services
>> > pom.xml file?
>> > >>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>> > Thanks.
>> > >>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>> > Jim
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>> > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 18:45:10 -0400
>> > From: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Problem with pom.xml at root of
>> >        edu-services
>> > To: Anthony Whyte <arwhyte at umich.edu>
>> > Cc: David Pang <dxp at umich.edu>,
>> >        "gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org"
>> >        <gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>,       Sakai-Dev
>> > Developers
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>> >
>> > I may be saying it wrong, but edu-services' base pom declares that it
>> needs
>> > version [1.0.0-1.1.0) of a couple jars.  For some reason for the past
>> couple
>> > weeks, maven has decided that the version it needs based on that
>> declaration
>> > was 1.1.0-a02. I'm guessing that maven was finding that jar in my local
>> repo
>> > and then it looked in remote repositories to see if there was a newer
>> > version.  Because edu-services also contained a reference to a bogus
>> repo
>> > (apache-repo), that took a lot of time.  Once I cleaned out my local
>> repo,
>> > for some reason, maven still decides it needs version 1.1.0-a02 of that
>> jar,
>> > but now it is no longer in my local repo and it's not in any remote
>> repo, so
>> > the build fails.
>> >
>> > Maybe I am doing something wrong that is aggravating this situation, but
>> if
>> > the pom said it wanted version 1.0.6 of that jar (which *IS* in the
>> remote
>> > repos *AND* in my local repo) I would not be having this problem.  To me
>> > that is a bug in the pre-built edu-services jars.
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
>> >
>> > On Oct 21, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Anthony Whyte wrote:
>> >
>> > > We don't delete stable binaries from our Sakai Mavn2 repo so the
>> scenario
>> > described in the sentence below insofar as it pertains to Sakai
>> artifacts
>> > ("1.1.0-a02 . . . is no longer in  . . . any remote repo") should rank
>> > pretty low when one is seeking to account for a build failure.
>> > >
>> > >> If maven decides it needs version 1.1.0-a02 of a particular jar and
>> it
>> > is no longer in the local repo or any remote repo, and it can't be built
>> > locally, that causes the build to fail.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Recall, however that we generate no binaries for "monolithic" Sakai
>> > (e.g., non-indies) during the alpha, beta, rc phases prior to a release.
>>  If
>> > for some reason you decide to declare a dependency on
>> > assignments-api-2.8-SNAPSHOT, you better have the jar in your local .m2
>> repo
>> > because you'll never retrieve it remotely (until such a time as we
>> choose to
>> > repackage assignments).
>> > >
>> > > ~Anth
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Oct 21, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Actually, this does not cause as much of a problem (at least at build
>> > time) if you have old 2.8 artifacts in your repo.  It's a problem when
>> you
>> > don't have them because some of them are no longer available from remote
>> > repos.  If maven decides it needs version 1.1.0-a02 of a particular jar
>> and
>> > it is no longer in the local repo or any remote repo, and it can't be
>> built
>> > locally, that causes the build to fail.  And short of checking out
>> source
>> > for edu-services, fixing the errors in the pom files, and building it
>> > locally, there is no way to get gradebook2 to build with 2.7.
>> > >>
>> > >> This is not just a problem for gradebook2.  Any other project that
>> > depends on sections (and probably other edu-services jars) will have
>> similar
>> > problems until this is fixed.
>> > >>
>> > >> Jim
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Steve Swinsburg wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> When building 2.7, you need to blow away that portion of your local
>> > Maven repo so that it doesn't have the newer 2.8 artifacts in there.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> But I agree that a specific version should be used so as to
>> eliminate
>> > this issue.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> cheers,
>> > >>> Steve
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On 22/10/2010, at 7:21 AM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> We need to eliminate the apache-repo references in all pom.xml
>> files,
>> > but that is really just an annoyance that mostly slows down the build
>> > process for developers.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On the other hand, the use of ranges for versions in poms for
>> > "released" versions of a project should be considered a blocker.  In
>> this
>> > case, it looks like the correct version would have been
>> "${project.version}"
>> > rather than "[1.0.0-1.1.0)".
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> What is needed to get this fixed?  Does it require building
>> > edu-services 1.0.7 and replacing all references to edu-services 1.0.6
>> with
>> > edu-services 1.0.7?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Jim
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> Thanks, Chris. It looks like you are correct.  The last element in
>> > the dependencyManagement section of this pom.xml uses a range:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> >
>> https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn//edu-services/tags/edu-services-1.0.6/pom.xml
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> The gradebook2 build process depends on the jar, which is
>> downloaded
>> > rather than built locally.  That pom.xml file also includes a repository
>> > element for apache-repo with a bogus URL.  I don't think we'll be able
>> to
>> > build gradebook2 locally until that 1.0.6 jar is rebuilt without that
>> range
>> > of versions and without the apache-repo element.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Jim
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Maurer, Christopher Wayne wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Jim,
>> > >>>>>> I think this is the same sort of issue that we just ran into at
>> IU.
>> >  There are version ranges specified in the poms and apparently maven
>> isn't
>> > dealing with them properly.  What we were seeing was a dependency that
>> had a
>> > range like this:
>> > >>>>>> <version>[2.7.0,2.8.0)</version>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> ?was pulling in the 2.8.0-alpha02 artifacts.
>> > >>>>>> This caught us a bit off guard!  So, I expect that's the same
>> thing
>> > you're seeing.  It's pulling in those alpha artifacts related to the 2.8
>> > release instead of the highest 2.7 artifact.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Chris
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> From: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > >>>>>> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:46:24 -0400
>> > >>>>>> To: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > >>>>>> Cc: <gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>, David Pang <
>> > dxp at umich.edu>, Sakai-Dev Developers <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> >
>> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Problem with pom.xml at root of
>> > edu-services
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> master/pom.xml defines this property:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> <sakai.edu-services.version>1.0.6</sakai.edu-services.version>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> I am not seeing any hardcoded versions in master, core-deploy,
>> > sections or gradebook2.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Turns out there's another problem. Sakai 2.7.1 and 2.7.x seem to
>> > have a mix of versions for edu-services.  After cleaning out everything
>> from
>> > ~/.m2/repository/org/sakaiproject and starting to build full sakai
>> version
>> > 2.7.1, I find that sections-integrationsupport-1.0.6.jar has been put
>> into
>> > my m2 repo.  But when gradebook2 tries to find the sections-api jar, it
>> ends
>> > up using ${sakai.edu-services.version} when looking for that jar, and
>> > ${sakai.edu-services.version} seems to have a value of 1.1.0-a02 instead
>> of
>> > 1.0.6.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> I have been trying to unwind this to see why core-deply gets the
>> > 1.0.6 versions of various edu-services jars, but then the sections
>> project
>> > seems to want the 1.1.0-a02 versions.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Jim
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Anthony Whyte wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> I'll handle this.
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Anth
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Matthew Jones wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Looks like Anthony removed this from master in November 2009?
>> > Searching email it's given people a lot of problems in various messages.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >
>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai-dev/2010-January/005521.html
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>> What I meant was:  Could someone remove or update **the
>> > apache-repo repository element in** the edu-services pom.xml file?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> :-)
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> > The "repositories" tag in the root pom.xml file for
>> > edu-services includes the following repository element:
>> > >>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>> >        <repository>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> >            <id>apache-repo</id>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> >            <name>apache-repo</name>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> >            <layout>default</layout>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> >            <url>
>> > http://myfaces.zones.apache.org/dist/maven-repository</url>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> >            <releases>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> >                <enabled>true</enabled>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> >            </releases>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> >            <snapshots>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> >                <enabled>false</enabled>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> >            </snapshots>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> >        </repository>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>> > This seems to be an invalid URL, and it causes problems
>> when
>> > doing a full build of sakai with gradebook2.  The build hangs at this
>> point
>> > for several minutes before timing out:
>> > >>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>> > [INFO] artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport:
>> checking
>> > for updates from apache-repo
>> > >>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>> > After that long delay, the following messages are
>> displayed:
>> > >>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>> > [WARNING] repository metadata for: 'artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport'
>> could
>> > not be retrieved from repository: apache-repo due to an error: Operation
>> > timed out
>> > >>>>>>>>>> > [INFO] Repository 'apache-repo' will be blacklisted
>> > >>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>> > A similar repository element has been commented out in the
>> > master/pom.xml file.  Could someone remove or update the edu-services
>> > pom.xml file?
>> > >>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Thanks.
>> > >>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Jim
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>> > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:08:20 -0400
>> > From: Anthony Whyte <arwhyte at umich.edu>
>> > Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Problem with pom.xml at root of
>> >        edu-services
>> > To: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > Cc: David Pang <dxp at umich.edu>,
>> >        "gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org"
>> >        <gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>,       Sakai-Dev
>> > Developers
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>> > edu-services-1.1.0-a02 was generated on 19 October 2010 for
>> > sakai-2.8.0-a02; you can find it along with 1.1.0-a01 (generated 22 Sept
>> > 2010) and earlier binaries here:
>> >
>> > http://source.sakaiproject.org/maven2/org/sakaiproject/edu-services/
>> >
>> > What you've been experiencing of late is Maven opting for the new jars
>> > (1.1.0-a01 then as of Tuesday evening, 1.1.0-a02) as you deduced earlier
>>  In
>> > either case, whether or not you can retrieve these binaries, whether or
>> not
>> > they are in your local repo or elsewhere--you don't want them.  You need
>> > edu-services-1.0.6.
>> >
>> > As I noted in my earlier email, I am going to remove the version range
>> from
>> > edu-services-1.0.x and generate a new release (1.0.7).  I will then do
>> the
>> > same for the rest of the 2.7-related indies.  I'll update 2.7.x so that
>> it
>> > deploys the new binaries, sans version ranges.
>> >
>> > Once I am done, this leakage of 2.8-related artifacts into 2.7 builds
>> will
>> > cease.
>> >
>> > Anth
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Oct 21, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> >
>> > > I may be saying it wrong, but edu-services' base pom declares that it
>> > needs version [1.0.0-1.1.0) of a couple jars.  For some reason for the
>> past
>> > couple weeks, maven has decided that the version it needs based on that
>> > declaration was 1.1.0-a02. I'm guessing that maven was finding that jar
>> in
>> > my local repo and then it looked in remote repositories to see if there
>> was
>> > a newer version.  Because edu-services also contained a reference to a
>> bogus
>> > repo (apache-repo), that took a lot of time.  Once I cleaned out my
>> local
>> > repo, for some reason, maven still decides it needs version 1.1.0-a02 of
>> > that jar, but now it is no longer in my local repo and it's not in any
>> > remote repo, so the build fails.
>> > >
>> > > Maybe I am doing something wrong that is aggravating this situation,
>> but
>> > if the pom said it wanted version 1.0.6 of that jar (which *IS* in the
>> > remote repos *AND* in my local repo) I would not be having this problem.
>>  To
>> > me that is a bug in the pre-built edu-services jars.
>> > >
>> > > Jim
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Oct 21, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Anthony Whyte wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> We don't delete stable binaries from our Sakai Mavn2 repo so the
>> > scenario described in the sentence below insofar as it pertains to Sakai
>> > artifacts ("1.1.0-a02 . . . is no longer in  . . . any remote repo")
>> should
>> > rank pretty low when one is seeking to account for a build failure.
>> > >>
>> > >>> If maven decides it needs version 1.1.0-a02 of a particular jar and
>> it
>> > is no longer in the local repo or any remote repo, and it can't be built
>> > locally, that causes the build to fail.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Recall, however that we generate no binaries for "monolithic" Sakai
>> > (e.g., non-indies) during the alpha, beta, rc phases prior to a release.
>>  If
>> > for some reason you decide to declare a dependency on
>> > assignments-api-2.8-SNAPSHOT, you better have the jar in your local .m2
>> repo
>> > because you'll never retrieve it remotely (until such a time as we
>> choose to
>> > repackage assignments).
>> > >>
>> > >> ~Anth
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Oct 21, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Actually, this does not cause as much of a problem (at least at
>> build
>> > time) if you have old 2.8 artifacts in your repo.  It's a problem when
>> you
>> > don't have them because some of them are no longer available from remote
>> > repos.  If maven decides it needs version 1.1.0-a02 of a particular jar
>> and
>> > it is no longer in the local repo or any remote repo, and it can't be
>> built
>> > locally, that causes the build to fail.  And short of checking out
>> source
>> > for edu-services, fixing the errors in the pom files, and building it
>> > locally, there is no way to get gradebook2 to build with 2.7.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> This is not just a problem for gradebook2.  Any other project that
>> > depends on sections (and probably other edu-services jars) will have
>> similar
>> > problems until this is fixed.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Jim
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Steve Swinsburg wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> When building 2.7, you need to blow away that portion of your local
>> > Maven repo so that it doesn't have the newer 2.8 artifacts in there.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> But I agree that a specific version should be used so as to
>> eliminate
>> > this issue.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> cheers,
>> > >>>> Steve
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On 22/10/2010, at 7:21 AM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> We need to eliminate the apache-repo references in all pom.xml
>> files,
>> > but that is really just an annoyance that mostly slows down the build
>> > process for developers.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On the other hand, the use of ranges for versions in poms for
>> > "released" versions of a project should be considered a blocker.  In
>> this
>> > case, it looks like the correct version would have been
>> "${project.version}"
>> > rather than "[1.0.0-1.1.0)".
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> What is needed to get this fixed?  Does it require building
>> > edu-services 1.0.7 and replacing all references to edu-services 1.0.6
>> with
>> > edu-services 1.0.7?
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Jim
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Thanks, Chris. It looks like you are correct.  The last element
>> in
>> > the dependencyManagement section of this pom.xml uses a range:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> >
>> https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn//edu-services/tags/edu-services-1.0.6/pom.xml
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> The gradebook2 build process depends on the jar, which is
>> downloaded
>> > rather than built locally.  That pom.xml file also includes a repository
>> > element for apache-repo with a bogus URL.  I don't think we'll be able
>> to
>> > build gradebook2 locally until that 1.0.6 jar is rebuilt without that
>> range
>> > of versions and without the apache-repo element.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Jim
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Maurer, Christopher Wayne wrote:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Jim,
>> > >>>>>>> I think this is the same sort of issue that we just ran into at
>> IU.
>> >  There are version ranges specified in the poms and apparently maven
>> isn't
>> > dealing with them properly.  What we were seeing was a dependency that
>> had a
>> > range like this:
>> > >>>>>>> <version>[2.7.0,2.8.0)</version>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> ?was pulling in the 2.8.0-alpha02 artifacts.
>> > >>>>>>> This caught us a bit off guard!  So, I expect that's the same
>> thing
>> > you're seeing.  It's pulling in those alpha artifacts related to the 2.8
>> > release instead of the highest 2.7 artifact.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Chris
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> From: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > >>>>>>> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:46:24 -0400
>> > >>>>>>> To: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > >>>>>>> Cc: <gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>, David Pang <
>> > dxp at umich.edu>, Sakai-Dev Developers <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> >
>> > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Problem with pom.xml at root of
>> > edu-services
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> master/pom.xml defines this property:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> <sakai.edu-services.version>1.0.6</sakai.edu-services.version>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> I am not seeing any hardcoded versions in master, core-deploy,
>> > sections or gradebook2.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Turns out there's another problem. Sakai 2.7.1 and 2.7.x seem
>> to
>> > have a mix of versions for edu-services.  After cleaning out everything
>> from
>> > ~/.m2/repository/org/sakaiproject and starting to build full sakai
>> version
>> > 2.7.1, I find that sections-integrationsupport-1.0.6.jar has been put
>> into
>> > my m2 repo.  But when gradebook2 tries to find the sections-api jar, it
>> ends
>> > up using ${sakai.edu-services.version} when looking for that jar, and
>> > ${sakai.edu-services.version} seems to have a value of 1.1.0-a02 instead
>> of
>> > 1.0.6.
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> I have been trying to unwind this to see why core-deply gets
>> the
>> > 1.0.6 versions of various edu-services jars, but then the sections
>> project
>> > seems to want the 1.1.0-a02 versions.
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Jim
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Anthony Whyte wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> I'll handle this.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Anth
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Matthew Jones wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Looks like Anthony removed this from master in November 2009?
>> > Searching email it's given people a lot of problems in various messages.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >
>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai-dev/2010-January/005521.html
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> What I meant was:  Could someone remove or update **the
>> > apache-repo repository element in** the edu-services pom.xml file?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> :-)
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > The "repositories" tag in the root pom.xml file for
>> > edu-services includes the following repository element:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >        <repository>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >            <id>apache-repo</id>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >            <name>apache-repo</name>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >            <layout>default</layout>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >            <url>
>> > http://myfaces.zones.apache.org/dist/maven-repository</url>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >            <releases>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >                <enabled>true</enabled>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >            </releases>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >            <snapshots>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >                <enabled>false</enabled>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >            </snapshots>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >        </repository>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > This seems to be an invalid URL, and it causes problems
>> when
>> > doing a full build of sakai with gradebook2.  The build hangs at this
>> point
>> > for several minutes before timing out:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > [INFO] artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport:
>> checking
>> > for updates from apache-repo
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > After that long delay, the following messages are
>> displayed:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > [WARNING] repository metadata for: 'artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport'
>> could
>> > not be retrieved from repository: apache-repo due to an error: Operation
>> > timed out
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > [INFO] Repository 'apache-repo' will be blacklisted
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > A similar repository element has been commented out in the
>> > master/pom.xml file.  Could someone remove or update the edu-services
>> > pom.xml file?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Jim
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>> > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:27:30 -0400
>> > From: Anthony Whyte <arwhyte at umich.edu>
>> > Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Problem with pom.xml at root of
>> >        edu-services
>> > To: Eng Jim <jimeng at umich.edu>, David Pang <dxp at umich.edu>
>> > Cc: gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org,     Developers Sakai-Dev
>> >        <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>> > Message-ID: <7CC153FE-D137-4961-BDF5-C1E7C2DC2FF4 at umich.edu>
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>> >
>> > I should note that I misread your email slightly -- the jars I belive
>> you
>> > are referring to are: archive-api and sections-integrationsupport
>> >
>> > edu-services-1.0.6 base pom:
>> >
>> > <dependency>
>> > <groupId>org.sakaiproject.common</groupId>
>> > <artifactId>archive-api</artifactId>
>> > <version>[1.0.0,1.1.0)</version>
>> > </dependency>
>> >
>> > Binaries exist here: (1.0.4, 1.1.0-a01, 1.1.0-a02)
>> >
>> >
>> http://source.sakaiproject.org/maven2/org/sakaiproject/common/archive-api
>> >
>> > <dependency>
>> > <groupId>org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections</groupId>
>> > <artifactId>sections-integrationsupport</artifactId>
>> > <version>[1.0.0,1.1.0)</version>
>> > </dependency>
>> >
>> > Binaries exist here (1.0.6, 1.1.0-a01, 1.1.0-a02)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> http://source.sakaiproject.org/maven2/org/sakaiproject/edu-services/sections/sections-integrationsupport/
>> >
>> > Anyways, the issue is not about missing jars, it's about a version range
>> > pulling in the wrong binaries for you.
>> >
>> > You'll start seeing fixes in the morning.
>> >
>> > Anth
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Oct 21, 2010, at 7:08 PM, Anthony Whyte wrote:
>> >
>> > > edu-services-1.1.0-a02 was generated on 19 October 2010 for
>> > sakai-2.8.0-a02; you can find it along with 1.1.0-a01 (generated 22 Sept
>> > 2010) and earlier binaries here:
>> > >
>> > > http://source.sakaiproject.org/maven2/org/sakaiproject/edu-services/
>> > >
>> > > What you've been experiencing of late is Maven opting for the new jars
>> > (1.1.0-a01 then as of Tuesday evening, 1.1.0-a02) as you deduced earlier
>>  In
>> > either case, whether or not you can retrieve these binaries, whether or
>> not
>> > they are in your local repo or elsewhere--you don't want them.  You need
>> > edu-services-1.0.6.
>> > >
>> > > As I noted in my earlier email, I am going to remove the version range
>> > from edu-services-1.0.x and generate a new release (1.0.7).  I will then
>> do
>> > the same for the rest of the 2.7-related indies.  I'll update 2.7.x so
>> that
>> > it deploys the new binaries, sans version ranges.
>> > >
>> > > Once I am done, this leakage of 2.8-related artifacts into 2.7 builds
>> > will cease.
>> > >
>> > > Anth
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Oct 21, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I may be saying it wrong, but edu-services' base pom declares that it
>> > needs version [1.0.0-1.1.0) of a couple jars.  For some reason for the
>> past
>> > couple weeks, maven has decided that the version it needs based on that
>> > declaration was 1.1.0-a02. I'm guessing that maven was finding that jar
>> in
>> > my local repo and then it looked in remote repositories to see if there
>> was
>> > a newer version.  Because edu-services also contained a reference to a
>> bogus
>> > repo (apache-repo), that took a lot of time.  Once I cleaned out my
>> local
>> > repo, for some reason, maven still decides it needs version 1.1.0-a02 of
>> > that jar, but now it is no longer in my local repo and it's not in any
>> > remote repo, so the build fails.
>> > >>
>> > >> Maybe I am doing something wrong that is aggravating this situation,
>> but
>> > if the pom said it wanted version 1.0.6 of that jar (which *IS* in the
>> > remote repos *AND* in my local repo) I would not be having this problem.
>>  To
>> > me that is a bug in the pre-built edu-services jars.
>> > >>
>> > >> Jim
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Oct 21, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Anthony Whyte wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> We don't delete stable binaries from our Sakai Mavn2 repo so the
>> > scenario described in the sentence below insofar as it pertains to Sakai
>> > artifacts ("1.1.0-a02 . . . is no longer in  . . . any remote repo")
>> should
>> > rank pretty low when one is seeking to account for a build failure.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> If maven decides it needs version 1.1.0-a02 of a particular jar and
>> it
>> > is no longer in the local repo or any remote repo, and it can't be built
>> > locally, that causes the build to fail.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Recall, however that we generate no binaries for "monolithic" Sakai
>> > (e.g., non-indies) during the alpha, beta, rc phases prior to a release.
>>  If
>> > for some reason you decide to declare a dependency on
>> > assignments-api-2.8-SNAPSHOT, you better have the jar in your local .m2
>> repo
>> > because you'll never retrieve it remotely (until such a time as we
>> choose to
>> > repackage assignments).
>> > >>>
>> > >>> ~Anth
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Actually, this does not cause as much of a problem (at least at
>> build
>> > time) if you have old 2.8 artifacts in your repo.  It's a problem when
>> you
>> > don't have them because some of them are no longer available from remote
>> > repos.  If maven decides it needs version 1.1.0-a02 of a particular jar
>> and
>> > it is no longer in the local repo or any remote repo, and it can't be
>> built
>> > locally, that causes the build to fail.  And short of checking out
>> source
>> > for edu-services, fixing the errors in the pom files, and building it
>> > locally, there is no way to get gradebook2 to build with 2.7.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> This is not just a problem for gradebook2.  Any other project that
>> > depends on sections (and probably other edu-services jars) will have
>> similar
>> > problems until this is fixed.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Jim
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Steve Swinsburg wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> When building 2.7, you need to blow away that portion of your
>> local
>> > Maven repo so that it doesn't have the newer 2.8 artifacts in there.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> But I agree that a specific version should be used so as to
>> eliminate
>> > this issue.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> cheers,
>> > >>>>> Steve
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On 22/10/2010, at 7:21 AM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> We need to eliminate the apache-repo references in all pom.xml
>> > files, but that is really just an annoyance that mostly slows down the
>> build
>> > process for developers.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> On the other hand, the use of ranges for versions in poms for
>> > "released" versions of a project should be considered a blocker.  In
>> this
>> > case, it looks like the correct version would have been
>> "${project.version}"
>> > rather than "[1.0.0-1.1.0)".
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> What is needed to get this fixed?  Does it require building
>> > edu-services 1.0.7 and replacing all references to edu-services 1.0.6
>> with
>> > edu-services 1.0.7?
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Jim
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Thanks, Chris. It looks like you are correct.  The last element
>> in
>> > the dependencyManagement section of this pom.xml uses a range:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> >
>> https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn//edu-services/tags/edu-services-1.0.6/pom.xml
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> The gradebook2 build process depends on the jar, which is
>> > downloaded rather than built locally.  That pom.xml file also includes a
>> > repository element for apache-repo with a bogus URL.  I don't think
>> we'll be
>> > able to build gradebook2 locally until that 1.0.6 jar is rebuilt without
>> > that range of versions and without the apache-repo element.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Jim
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Maurer, Christopher Wayne wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Jim,
>> > >>>>>>>> I think this is the same sort of issue that we just ran into at
>> > IU.  There are version ranges specified in the poms and apparently maven
>> > isn't dealing with them properly.  What we were seeing was a dependency
>> that
>> > had a range like this:
>> > >>>>>>>> <version>[2.7.0,2.8.0)</version>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> ?was pulling in the 2.8.0-alpha02 artifacts.
>> > >>>>>>>> This caught us a bit off guard!  So, I expect that's the same
>> > thing you're seeing.  It's pulling in those alpha artifacts related to
>> the
>> > 2.8 release instead of the highest 2.7 artifact.
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Chris
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> From: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > >>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:46:24 -0400
>> > >>>>>>>> To: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > >>>>>>>> Cc: <gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>, David Pang <
>> > dxp at umich.edu>, Sakai-Dev Developers <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> >
>> > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Problem with pom.xml at root of
>> > edu-services
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> master/pom.xml defines this property:
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> <sakai.edu-services.version>1.0.6</sakai.edu-services.version>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> I am not seeing any hardcoded versions in master, core-deploy,
>> > sections or gradebook2.
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Turns out there's another problem. Sakai 2.7.1 and 2.7.x seem
>> to
>> > have a mix of versions for edu-services.  After cleaning out everything
>> from
>> > ~/.m2/repository/org/sakaiproject and starting to build full sakai
>> version
>> > 2.7.1, I find that sections-integrationsupport-1.0.6.jar has been put
>> into
>> > my m2 repo.  But when gradebook2 tries to find the sections-api jar, it
>> ends
>> > up using ${sakai.edu-services.version} when looking for that jar, and
>> > ${sakai.edu-services.version} seems to have a value of 1.1.0-a02 instead
>> of
>> > 1.0.6.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> I have been trying to unwind this to see why core-deply gets
>> the
>> > 1.0.6 versions of various edu-services jars, but then the sections
>> project
>> > seems to want the 1.1.0-a02 versions.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Jim
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Anthony Whyte wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> I'll handle this.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Anth
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Matthew Jones wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like Anthony removed this from master in November
>> 2009?
>> > Searching email it's given people a lot of problems in various messages.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >
>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai-dev/2010-January/005521.html
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> What I meant was:  Could someone remove or update **the
>> > apache-repo repository element in** the edu-services pom.xml file?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> :-)
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > The "repositories" tag in the root pom.xml file for
>> > edu-services includes the following repository element:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >        <repository>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >            <id>apache-repo</id>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >            <name>apache-repo</name>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >            <layout>default</layout>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >            <url>
>> > http://myfaces.zones.apache.org/dist/maven-repository</url>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >            <releases>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >                <enabled>true</enabled>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >            </releases>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >            <snapshots>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >                <enabled>false</enabled>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >            </snapshots>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >        </repository>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > This seems to be an invalid URL, and it causes problems
>> when
>> > doing a full build of sakai with gradebook2.  The build hangs at this
>> point
>> > for several minutes before timing out:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > [INFO] artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport:
>> checking
>> > for updates from apache-repo
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > After that long delay, the following messages are
>> displayed:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > [WARNING] repository metadata for: 'artifact
>> > org.sakaiproject.edu-services.sections:sections-integrationsupport'
>> could
>> > not be retrieved from repository: apache-repo due to an error: Operation
>> > timed out
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > [INFO] Repository 'apache-repo' will be blacklisted
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > A similar repository element has been commented out in
>> the
>> > master/pom.xml file.  Could someone remove or update the edu-services
>> > pom.xml file?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > Jim
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>> > Message: 14
>> > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 09:10:58 +0200
>> > From: Jacek Bilski <jacek.bilski at avalcom.pl>
>> > Subject: [Building Sakai] PostgreSQL support
>> > To: Sakai-dev <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>> > Message-ID: <4CC13902.2090906 at avalcom.pl>
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>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > As I already wrote in http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-10826 me
>> > and my company are willing to add support for PostgreSQL to Sakai. We're
>> > beginning a new project involving Sakai, but as it will take some time
>> > to start it, we're targeting version 3.0.
>> >
>> > Could anyone give us some hints as to where to look and what to look
>> > for, any possible pitfalls, and the like? We're now looking into what
>> > needs to be done. If anyone could help it would be much easier. We would
>> > probably also need rw access to svn repository.
>> >
>> > Best regards
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jacek Bilski
>> > Dyrektor ds. Technologii
>> > jacek.bilski at avalcom.pl
>> > tel.: +48 609 572 036
>> >
>> > Avalcom Sp. z o.o. z siedzib? w Rokietnicy, ul. Modrzewiowa 12, 62-090
>> > Rokietnica. S?d Rejonowy w Poznaniu, VIII Wydzia? Gospodarczy Krajowego
>> > Rejestru S?dowego, numer KRS 00000349521, NIP 777-31-50-030, REGON
>> > 301371500, kapita? zak?adowy 6.000,00 PLN
>> > tel. +48 71 3495219, e-mail: biuro at avalcom.pl,
>> > http://www.avalcom.pl
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 15
>> > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:27:54 +0700
>> > From: Tin Nguyen <nguyentrongtin89 at gmail.com>
>> > Subject: [Building Sakai] How to fix this problem with Tests&Quizzes
>> >        and     Chat tools
>> > To: sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> > Message-ID:
>> >        <AANLkTi=ruS4wQNVG=X-=zaajEK6Q+gRU1HChgxvKOsiG at mail.gmail.com<zaajEK6Q%2BgRU1HChgxvKOsiG at mail.gmail.com>
>> <zaajEK6Q%2BgRU1HChgxvKOsiG at mail.gmail.com<zaajEK6Q%252BgRU1HChgxvKOsiG at mail.gmail.com>
>> >
>> > >
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >
>> > Dear all,
>> > When I clicked the Tests&Quizzes or Chat link, sakai showed the
>> exception:
>> >
>> > org.sakaiproject.portal.api.PortalHandlerException:
>> > java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Unable to find registered context
>> > for tool with ID sakai.samigo
>> >    at
>> >
>> org.sakaiproject.portal.charon.SkinnableCharonPortal.doGet(SkinnableCharonPortal.java:768)
>> > caused by: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Unable to find
>> > registered context for tool with ID sakai.samigo
>> >    at
>> >
>> org.sakaiproject.tool.impl.ActiveToolComponent$MyActiveTool.forward(ActiveToolComponent.java:497)
>> >    at
>> >
>> org.sakaiproject.portal.charon.SkinnableCharonPortal.forwardTool(SkinnableCharonPortal.java:1221)
>> >    at
>> >
>> org.sakaiproject.portal.charon.handlers.ToolHandler.doTool(ToolHandler.java:204)
>> >    at
>> >
>> org.sakaiproject.portal.charon.handlers.ToolHandler.doGet(ToolHandler.java:96)
>> >    at
>> >
>> org.sakaiproject.portal.charon.SkinnableCharonPortal.doGet(SkinnableCharonPortal.java:768)
>> >    at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:627)
>> >    at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:729)
>> >    at
>> >
>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:269)
>> >    at
>> >
>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188)
>> >    at
>> org.sakaiproject.util.RequestFilter.doFilter(RequestFilter.java:646)
>> >    at
>> >
>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:215)
>> >    at
>> >
>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188)
>> >    at
>> >
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:213)
>> >    at
>> >
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java:172)
>> >    at
>> >
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:127)
>> >    at
>> >
>> org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:117)
>> >    at
>> >
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java:108)
>> >    at
>> >
>> org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:174)
>> >    at
>> >
>> org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11AprProcessor.process(Http11AprProcessor.java:843)
>> >    at
>> >
>> org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11AprProtocol$Http11ConnectionHandler.process(Http11AprProtocol.java:679)
>> >    at
>> > org.apache.tomcat.util.net.AprEndpoint$Worker.run(AprEndpoint.java:1293)
>> >    at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619)
>> >
>> > I tried to clean all (database, tomcat, sakai source). After that I
>> > installed and deployed again, but not effect.
>> > My system is:
>> >
>> >   - Tomcat 5.5.31
>> >   - Sakai-src 2.7.1
>> >   - MySQL database 5.1
>> >   - Win 7 Home 64bit
>> >   - JDK 1.6.0_21
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>> >
>> > Message: 16
>> > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:11:58 +0100
>> > From: Adam Marshall <adam.marshall at oucs.ox.ac.uk>
>> > Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Displaying details in Resources' table
>> >        view
>> > To: Matt Clare <Matt.Clare at BrockU.CA>
>> > Cc: "sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org"
>> >        <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>> > Message-ID:
>> >        <
>> E3F632CF621AB2488269800D3F05D54C56FE7BA69B at EXMBX03.ad.oak.ox.ac.uk
>> > >
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> >
>> > I suggest what you need to use is the "Access view" of resources!
>> >
>> > We've been running an improved version of the access view of resources
>> for
>> > about 3 years now. This was done by Gonzalo Silvero to whom we will be
>> > eternally grateful. See: http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-13694.
>> >
>> > It doesnt render copyright status though - adding this would be an
>> > excellent improvement. Perhaps a BG image of a (c) could be added
>> somewhere
>> > to an item?
>> >
>> > We made the decision to allow HTML in a resource description but don't
>> > intend to offer a WYSIWYG editor as this often prompts people to get a
>> bit
>> > carried away!
>> >
>> > It looks like this fix may be in 2.7.
>> >
>> > Here's a made-up example:
>> >
>> https://weblearn.ox.ac.uk/access/content/group/cc2c88fe-a0fe-44d6-0046-89493362b2aa/sub%20f/
>> >
>> > I'm not sure what we did to enable HTML in the descriptions but we're
>> happy
>> > to kake it available.
>> >
>> > As a side note we neededn this as we added IMS CP import to Site Info >
>> > Import from file and our IMS CPs contain HTML descriptions. This may
>> also
>> > apply to IMS CCtoo?
>> >
>> > adam
>> >
>> > | -----Original Message-----
>> > | From: Matt Clare [mailto:Matt.Clare at BrockU.CA]
>> > | Sent: 21 October 2010 18:04
>> > | To: Adam Marshall
>> > | Cc: sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> > | Subject: Re: Displaying details in Resources' table view
>> > |
>> > | Thanks for the follow up,
>> > |
>> > |       The main "details" are the Description and Copyright Status.
>> > | There are also a number of Optional properties.
>> > |
>> > |       If these items had some indicator in the same way that
>> "Copyright
>> > | Alert" does students would be more likely to click through to them.
>>  As
>> > | it stands a student that does go to Actions > View Details for each
>> > | item is quickly condition not to do that anymore because there is
>> > | rarely any results and its a number of steps each time, in turn,
>> > | instructors tend not make use of Description and Copyright Status
>> > | because student don't review them
>> > |
>> > |       Should I be filing a feature request then?
>> > |
>> > |       .\.\att
>> > |
>> > | On 2010-10-21, at 12:18 PM, Adam Marshall wrote:
>> > |
>> > | > what else did you want to display?
>> > | >
>> > | > adam
>> > | >
>> > | > | -----Original Message-----
>> > | > | From: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:
>> sakai-dev-
>> > | > | bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Matt Clare
>> > | > | Sent: 20 October 2010 20:52
>> > | > | To: sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> > | > | Subject: [Building Sakai] Displaying details in Resources' table
>> > | view
>> > | > |
>> > | > | Hello Sakai-dev community.
>> > | > |
>> > | > |   I was curious if there was a way to display the details
>> > | > | instructor add to items in the Resources tool in the table view?
>> > | > |
>> > | > |   When an item is marked as "Display copyright alert and require
>> > | > | a...." there is a (c) placed beside the item title, but the other
>> > | > | details are still two-clicks and a page-load away for students to
>> > | > | discover under Actions > View Details.
>> > | > |
>> > | > |   Is there any way to indicate to students which Resource items
>> > | > | they should be investigating the details of?  Is this a
>> > | configuration
>> > | > | item somewhere?
>> > | > |
>> > | > | Thanks,
>> > | > |
>> > | > | .\.\att
>> > | > |
>> > | > | Brock University
>> > | > | _______________________________________________
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>> > | > | sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
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>> > | > |
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>> > | > | unsubscribe at collab.sakaiproject.org with a subject of
>> "unsubscribe"
>> > |
>> > |   ::  Matt Clare
>> > | Educational Technology Support Specialist,
>> > | Centre for Teaching Learning and Educational Technologies (CTLET)
>> > | Part-time Instructor, Interactive Arts and Sciences
>> > | Brock University, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada
>> > | www.brocku.ca/ctlet  905 688 5550 xt 4734   Office: SBH315
>> > |
>> > | Isaak/Sakai Question?  http://kumu.brocku.ca/sakai/FAQ
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 17
>> > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 11:52:16 +0100
>> > From: Matthew Buckett <matthew.buckett at oucs.ox.ac.uk>
>> > Subject: [Building Sakai] Sitestats 2.1.0 in Sakai 2.6.x
>> > To: Sakai Developers <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>> > Cc: Nuno Fernandes <nuno at ufp.pt>
>> > Message-ID:
>> >        <AANLkTi=hfTY4GQ0EHLwd9n5zaKxH-oeFbu5uayk9T9Wq at mail.gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> >
>> > Should it easy to run Sitestats 2.1.0 on Sakai 2.6.x by just changing
>> > the references in the POMs?
>> >
>> > The reason is we're interested in 2.1.0 is that some of our users are
>> > seeing negative resources counts
>> > (http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/STAT-203)  and this isn't fixed
>> > in the 2.6.x branch of Sitestats 2.0.
>> >
>> > So one possible way to fix it is to upgrade to 2.1.0.
>> >
>> > --
>> > ? Matthew Buckett
>> > ? VLE Developer, LTG, Oxford University Computing Services
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 18
>> > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 08:33:33 -0700
>> > From: John Bush <john.bush at rsmart.com>
>> > Subject: [Building Sakai] math editor for fckeditor
>> > To: sakai-user <sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>,    Sakai-Dev
>> >        <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>> > Message-ID:
>> >        <AANLkTinJ28bX0pHt1_jncbBbBjKu5nocCJFNjJDfxRoL at mail.gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> >
>> > Is anyone doing anything to bring a math editor into sakai?  I know
>> > about jsmath for rwiki and sferyx for melete, but something that plugs
>> > into the fckeditor is the ideal, since that give the most widespread
>> > use.  I stumbled across I decent blog that talks about some of the
>> > options for moodle, but seems relevant to us as well.
>> >
>> > http://www.stattler.com/blog/latex-equation-drupal-blog
>> >
>> > This look like the best contender, as there is already a fckeditor
>> > plugin for this tool, check it out:
>> >
>> > check this out,
>> http://www.codecogs.com/pages/forums/pagegen.php?id=1639
>> >
>> > Is anyone using this or an alternative, care to share experiences ?
>> >
>> > --
>> > John Bush
>> > 602-490-0470
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 19
>> > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 12:49:49 -0400
>> > From: "Qian, Zhen" <zqian at umich.edu>
>> > Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] math editor for fckeditor
>> > To: John Bush <john.bush at rsmart.com>, sakai-user
>> >        <sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>, Sakai-Dev
>> >        <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>> > Message-ID:
>> >        <
>> >
>> CBA500AB728544458AAED0758F72F6C5032E06680A at ITS-ECLS-2-VS4.adsroot.itcs.umich.edu
>> > >
>> >
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> >
>> > John,
>> >
>> > I think equation support can be divided into two parts: (1) the ability
>> to
>> > render good quality image for equation in browsers and (2) the ability
>> to
>> > support creating/editing LaTex/MathML equation.
>> >
>> > As for part (1), I think the trend now is to use MathJax display engine(
>> > http://www.mathjax.org/), which support all browsers and both LaTex and
>> > MathML. Here is a previous discussion thread for replacing jsMath with
>> > MathJax:
>> >
>> http://old.nabble.com/-Building-Sakai--MathJax-to-replace-jsMath-in-rWiki--td29464530.html
>> >
>> > For part (2), I haven't checked their licences or prices yet. Some
>> plugins
>> > render equation images and embed into FCKEditor. DragMath (
>> > http://www.dragmath.bham.ac.uk/integrations.html) can output LaTex
>> > formatted string, which can be displayed by MathJax afterwards.
>> >
>> > Part 1 seems to be a low-hanging fruit, and I hope that can solve at
>> least
>> > 50% of user needs. Equation support is on our top to-do list here. We'd
>> love
>> > to hear suggestions from other teams.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > - Zhen
>> > ________________________________________
>> > From: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [
>> > sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of John Bush [
>> > john.bush at rsmart.com]
>> > Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 11:33 AM
>> > To: sakai-user; Sakai-Dev
>> > Subject: [Building Sakai] math editor for fckeditor
>> >
>> > Is anyone doing anything to bring a math editor into sakai?  I know
>> > about jsmath for rwiki and sferyx for melete, but something that plugs
>> > into the fckeditor is the ideal, since that give the most widespread
>> > use.  I stumbled across I decent blog that talks about some of the
>> > options for moodle, but seems relevant to us as well.
>> >
>> > http://www.stattler.com/blog/latex-equation-drupal-blog
>> >
>> > This look like the best contender, as there is already a fckeditor
>> > plugin for this tool, check it out:
>> >
>> > check this out,
>> http://www.codecogs.com/pages/forums/pagegen.php?id=1639
>> >
>> > Is anyone using this or an alternative, care to share experiences ?
>> >
>> > --
>> > John Bush
>> > 602-490-0470
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > sakai-dev mailing list
>> > sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> > http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev
>> >
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>> > "unsubscribe"
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 20
>> > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:37:22 -0700
>> > From: Karen Tsao <ktsao at stanford.edu>
>> > Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] How to fix this problem with
>> >        Tests&Quizzes and Chat tools
>> > To: Tin Nguyen <nguyentrongtin89 at gmail.com>
>> > Cc: sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> > Message-ID:
>> >        <AANLkTi=aa-tDp_Wew9rC8J9jNkuJndXTmCQ0W1qu_SML at mail.gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >
>> > Hi Tin,
>> >
>> > I am not sure what causes the error. However, I notice you use JDK 1.6,
>> can
>> > you please check if you have the following line added in the tomcat
>> startup
>> > script?
>> >
>> > *-Dsun.lang.ClassLoader.allowArraySyntax=true *
>> >
>> > If you don't have it, please add it in and let me know if it can fix
>> your
>> > problem.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Karen
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Tin Nguyen <
>> nguyentrongtin89 at gmail.com
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > Dear all,
>> > > When I clicked the Tests&Quizzes or Chat link, sakai showed the
>> > exception:
>> > >
>> > > org.sakaiproject.portal.api.PortalHandlerException:
>> > java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Unable to find registered context
>> for
>> > tool with ID sakai.samigo
>> > >
>> > >     at
>> >
>> org.sakaiproject.portal.charon.SkinnableCharonPortal.doGet(SkinnableCharonPortal.java:768)
>> > > caused by: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Unable to find
>> registered
>> > context for tool with ID sakai.samigo
>> > >     at
>> >
>> org.sakaiproject.tool.impl.ActiveToolComponent$MyActiveTool.forward(ActiveToolComponent.java:497)
>> > >
>> > >     at
>> >
>> org.sakaiproject.portal.charon.SkinnableCharonPortal.forwardTool(SkinnableCharonPortal.java:1221)
>> > >     at
>> >
>> org.sakaiproject.portal.charon.handlers.ToolHandler.doTool(ToolHandler.java:204)
>> > >     at
>> >
>> org.sakaiproject.portal.charon.handlers.ToolHandler.doGet(ToolHandler.java:96)
>> > >
>> > >     at
>> >
>> org.sakaiproject.portal.charon.SkinnableCharonPortal.doGet(SkinnableCharonPortal.java:768)
>> > >     at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:627)
>> > >     at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:729)
>> > >
>> > >     at
>> >
>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:269)
>> > >     at
>> >
>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188)
>> > >     at
>> > org.sakaiproject.util.RequestFilter.doFilter(RequestFilter.java:646)
>> > >
>> > >     at
>> >
>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:215)
>> > >     at
>> >
>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188)
>> > >     at
>> >
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:213)
>> > >
>> > >     at
>> >
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java:172)
>> > >     at
>> >
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:127)
>> > >     at
>> >
>> org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:117)
>> > >
>> > >     at
>> >
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java:108)
>> > >     at
>> >
>> org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:174)
>> > >     at
>> >
>> org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11AprProcessor.process(Http11AprProcessor.java:843)
>> > >
>> > >     at
>> >
>> org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11AprProtocol$Http11ConnectionHandler.process(Http11AprProtocol.java:679)
>> > >     at
>> > org.apache.tomcat.util.net.AprEndpoint$Worker.run(AprEndpoint.java:1293)
>> > >     at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619)
>> > >
>> > > I tried to clean all (database, tomcat, sakai source). After that I
>> > > installed and deployed again, but not effect.
>> > > My system is:
>> > >
>> > >    - Tomcat 5.5.31
>> > >    - Sakai-src 2.7.1
>> > >    - MySQL database 5.1
>> > >    - Win 7 Home 64bit
>> > >    - JDK 1.6.0_21
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > Message: 21
>> > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 17:54:47 +0000
>> > From: "Richwine, Brian L" <brichwin at indiana.edu>
>> > Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] math editor for fckeditor
>> > To: "Qian, Zhen" <zqian at umich.edu>, John Bush <john.bush at rsmart.com>,
>> >        sakai-user <sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>, Sakai-Dev
>> >        <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>> > Cc: "accessibility at collab.sakaiproject.org WG
>> >        \(accessibility at collab.sakaiproject.org\)"
>> >        <accessibility at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>> > Message-ID:
>> >        <
>> D0FD37EC6A2B874984F5EEC59677E4C4E9102B at IU-MSSG-MBX104.ads.iu.edu>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> >
>> > If work towards bringing math to Sakai is taking place, it would be
>> great
>> > if the results were accessible.
>> >
>> > Accessible math (for screen-reader users for instance) still has a
>> little
>> > ways to go. The only accessible paths I've seen supported involve using
>> > MathML. Browser plug-ins (like MathPlayer for IE) let users navigate and
>> > explore the equation audibly, can highlight math as it is spoken, and
>> allow
>> > for in browser magnification of the equation. There are
>> MathML-to-Braille
>> > translators which would make the work of folks who have to convert
>> course
>> > materials for blink students into Braille much easier if the math was
>> > already in MathML.
>> >
>> > LaTeX is really a printer markup language, and as a result, is not as
>> > purely semantic as MathML is. LaTeX codes for equations are frequently
>> > chosen from a standpoint of achieving a specific visual result, and
>> often
>> > don't supply enough information semantically and hierarchically to make
>> the
>> > relationships between terms clear.  Equations coded in MathML are
>> > semantically and hierarchically correct and machine readable and as such
>> can
>> > be computed -- equations coded in LaTeX are predictable in their
>> appearance
>> > but often are semantically and hierarchically ambiguous and thus are not
>> > machine readable for the purpose of computation.  Since equations coded
>> as
>> > LaTeX aren't always machine readable, they also aren't in a format that
>> > adaptive technologies such as screen-readers can announce clearly and
>> > accurately to their users. It is our experience that LaTeX to MathML
>> > convertors (such as using MathJax with MathPlayer) fail to do an
>> accurate
>> > job for this reason.
>> >
>> > Brian Richwine
>> >
>> > Brian Richwine
>> > Sakai Accessibility Working Group
>> > Adaptive Technology Support Specialist
>> > Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Centers
>> > Indiana University - Bloomington/Indianapolis
>> > http://iuadapts.indiana.edu
>> > (812) 856-4112
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:
>> > sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Qian, Zhen
>> > Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 12:50 PM
>> > To: John Bush; sakai-user; Sakai-Dev
>> > Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] math editor for fckeditor
>> >
>> > John,
>> >
>> > I think equation support can be divided into two parts: (1) the ability
>> to
>> > render good quality image for equation in browsers and (2) the ability
>> to
>> > support creating/editing LaTex/MathML equation.
>> >
>> > As for part (1), I think the trend now is to use MathJax display engine(
>> > http://www.mathjax.org/), which support all browsers and both LaTex and
>> > MathML. Here is a previous discussion thread for replacing jsMath with
>> > MathJax:
>> >
>> http://old.nabble.com/-Building-Sakai--MathJax-to-replace-jsMath-in-rWiki--td29464530.html
>> >
>> > For part (2), I haven't checked their licences or prices yet. Some
>> plugins
>> > render equation images and embed into FCKEditor. DragMath (
>> > http://www.dragmath.bham.ac.uk/integrations.html) can output LaTex
>> > formatted string, which can be displayed by MathJax afterwards.
>> >
>> > Part 1 seems to be a low-hanging fruit, and I hope that can solve at
>> least
>> > 50% of user needs. Equation support is on our top to-do list here. We'd
>> love
>> > to hear suggestions from other teams.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > - Zhen
>> > ________________________________________
>> > From: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [
>> > sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of John Bush [
>> > john.bush at rsmart.com]
>> > Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 11:33 AM
>> > To: sakai-user; Sakai-Dev
>> > Subject: [Building Sakai] math editor for fckeditor
>> >
>> > Is anyone doing anything to bring a math editor into sakai?  I know
>> about
>> > jsmath for rwiki and sferyx for melete, but something that plugs into
>> the
>> > fckeditor is the ideal, since that give the most widespread use.  I
>> stumbled
>> > across I decent blog that talks about some of the options for moodle,
>> but
>> > seems relevant to us as well.
>> >
>> > http://www.stattler.com/blog/latex-equation-drupal-blog
>> >
>> > This look like the best contender, as there is already a fckeditor
>> plugin
>> > for this tool, check it out:
>> >
>> > check this out,
>> http://www.codecogs.com/pages/forums/pagegen.php?id=1639
>> >
>> > Is anyone using this or an alternative, care to share experiences ?
>> >
>> > --
>> > John Bush
>> > 602-490-0470
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