[Building Sakai] 2.8 potential scope

[Berg, Alan]

I agree with Anthony's sentiments about a hard(ish) early release date, it is very good for concentrating minds and planning resources.

Alan

Alan Berg
QA Director - The Sakai Foundation

Senior Developer / Quality Assurance
Group Education and Research Services
Central Computer Services
University of Amsterdam

http://home.uva.nl/a.m.berg




-----Original Message-----
From: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org on behalf of Anthony Whyte
Sent: Tue 5/25/2010 17:33
To: Clay Fenlason
Cc: sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] 2.8 potential scope
 
I think it is important to first capture aspirations and then sync them to reality.  Of course, this presupposes that a general frame exists in which to align one's thoughts regarding needs, scope and likely resources.  In this regard, I think it important to propose up front one or more release timelines.  A December 2010 2.8.0 release (impossible you say) will I suspect look a lot different than an April 2011 2.8.0 release.  But I think it useful to stake out potential time blocks for folks to consider.  What are your thoughts here?

I recognize that this is the jump off point for our 2.8 discussions but I recommend that you send your "2.8 potential scope" to all lists, not just sakai-dev.  It's important to engage the entire Community right from the start regarding 2.8, not just the technical crowd.

Cheers,

Anth


On May 25, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Clay Fenlason wrote:

> Yes, David, that's going to be part of the discussion and planning.
> Just trying to bite off one thing at a time for now.
> 
> ~Clay
> 
> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:39 AM, David Horwitz <david.horwitz at uct.ac.za> wrote:
>> This is a not a comment on the merits of any of the functionality
>> mentioned, but can we please actually consider what we have the capacity
>> to support, qa, and release? We seem to always run away with what we
>> would like to see in the release without pausing to consider that the
>> release is already larger and more complex than we can deal with ...
>> 
>> D
>> 
>> On 05/25/2010 03:34 PM, Speelmon, Lance Day wrote:
>>> 1) I would push strongly to include all hybrid related code in the 2.8 release. The hybrid code will run on many previous versions of Sakai, but it would be nice to include it in a release.
>>> 
>>> 2) I find the statement about "LTI producers at the tool-level" confusing, but I think we are in the same ballpark.  There are some things we can do in Sakai 2 which will not only make it a better product but will also make for a better migration path to Sakai 3. This may include additional LTI work, but should also include entity picker-like [1] functionality.
>>> 
>>> Thanks, L
>>> 
>>> [1] http://wiki.sakaiproject.org/display/SAKDEV/Entity+Picker
>>> 
>>> Lance Speelmon
>>> Scholarly Technologist
>>> 
>>> On May 25, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Clay Fenlason wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> LTI producers?: the success of hybrid mode experimentation using LTI
>>>> suggests we might make real progress for community migrations paths
>>>> and early S3 adoption. I may be wrong about this, but I'm under the
>>>> impression that we'd want to write LTI producers at the tool-level in
>>>> 2.x, and some of them may be appropriate for 2.8.
>>>> 
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