[Building Sakai] Instructor should not be able to 'AddParticipants' but can manage participant status

[Richwine, Brian L]

Hi,

I work at Indiana University, in the adaptive technology center where we provide alternative media preparation services for students with disabilities. We need access to our clients' course materials (including those posted to Sakai by the instructor) so we can convert them to an accessible alternate format. We make requests to our clients' instructors to be added to the class. We do this because we obviously can't/shouldn't log in as our clients, and our clients (being typical students) are sometimes too unreliable to get the materials for us in a timely manner for us to convert it. We have a special group account specifically for our alternate media production staff, and that is the account Instructors add.

Just wanted to put this out there as a case where it is useful for Instructors to add participants.

Sincerely,
  Brian Richwine


Brian Richwine
Adaptive Technology Support Specialist
Adaptive Technology and Accessibility Centers
Indiana University - Bloomington/Indianapolis
http://iuadapts.indiana.edu
(812) 856-4112



-----Original Message-----
From: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Nicola Monat-Jacobs
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:25 AM
To: Daniel Merino
Cc: Sakai Dev List
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Instructor should not be able to 'AddParticipants' but can manage participant status

Thanks for this info Dan. There's really (at least) 3 different permissions at work here:

1) Add/remove participants, change the membership of the course
2) Manage participant status (Active/Inactive)
3) Manage participant role (e.g., Student, TA, Instructor)

and I can imagine scenarios where you'd want to give instructors one (or two) but not the other(s). It looks like site.upd.site.mbrshp is still a little too broad if it encompasses all three of these permissions.

There is an open ticket here: http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-7768
but it looks like this issue has been kicking around since at least the days of 2.0, 2.1.

Nicola

On Jan 22, 2010, at  2:32 AM, Daniel Merino wrote:

> Hi, Nicola. In our institution we though something similar, but more 
> fine-grained: we would like that Instructors should be able to promote 
> their own Teaching Assistants between their students, but without being 
> able to add/delete students in the official courses.
> 
> Best regards.
> 
> Nicola Monat-Jacobs escribió:
>> I'm wondering if anyone has encountered the following need:
>> 
>> Instructors should be able to manage participant status (e.g., 'Active' and 'Inactive') but should not be able to add/remove users from the site or change their roles.
>> 
>> Currently, it looks like changing a user's status in a course is controlled by site.upd.site.mbrshp, which also give you access to the undesirable features too.
>> 
>> Has anyone else encountered this use case or done any work in this regard? 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Nicola Monat-Jacobs
>> The Longsight Group
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