[Building Sakai] Fwd: Hierarchy working as expected?

[Nicola Monat-Jacobs]

Adam -

I agree that having more delegated administration is ultimately a preferred approach, and I think others are on board with that:

http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/EVALSYS-809

In the meantime, I'm wondering why the admin user can't just do a one-time set up of the initial hierarchy without being enrolled in all the courses. 

Essentially, I'm wonder if this is a bug, or if there's some work-around that I'm missing.

Nicola

On Feb 22, 2010, at  10:42 AM, Adam Marshall wrote:

> This is the behaviour that we are seeing too; in fact it is your message that finally explained where the weird selection of groups that we were seeing came from.
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> It is not at all useful for us at all.
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> We do not use the central admin username for anything, indeed it is the departmental administrators who will set up evaluations and they will want to grant access to the departmental heads who will probably want to grant access to the divisions who will want to give access to the various university committees higher up the food chain (and so on).
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> Therefore, a better model for us would be to give the individual survey author the ability to grant access to a list of named individuals who could then grant permissions to a list of people higher up and so on and so forth. This should probably be done on a survey by survey basis (with the ability to say "I want the view permissions to be just like this survey" or to set up a new set of people who can view)
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> Adam
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> From: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Nicola Monat-Jacobs
> Sent: 22 February 2010 15:05
> To: sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org List
> Subject: [Building Sakai] Fwd: Hierarchy working as expected?
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> I originally sent this query to the Evaluation system list, but I haven't heard back yet, so I thought I'd send out to the dev list too. Sorry for the double-post.
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> From: Nicola Monat-Jacobs <nicola at longsight.com>
> Date: February 19, 2010 1:28:26 PM EST
> To: evaluation at collab.sakaiproject.org
> Subject: Hierarchy working as expected?
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> Hi All -
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> I've seen that there are some schools on this list using hierarchy, so I thought I'd throw my question out there as we're currently trying to get it set up. 
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> I'm running a checkout of trunk of the evaluation system, but we're seeing a perplexing problem. When attempting to add groups/sites to a hierarchy node, it appears that only sites that have the sakai admin user enrolled are available to add. 
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> This happens on Sakai 2.6.x and Sakai 2.7/trunk. It happens if you are logged in as admin or as a user that has admin powers. The course sites have the correct evalsys permissions in their realms, so I'm a little confused... is this by design? How do other schools use hierarchy? Is the admin user assigned to all your sites?
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> Thanks,
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> Nicola Monat-Jacobs
> The Longsight Group
> nicola at longsight.com
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