[Building Sakai] A recent outage caused by Kerberos upgrade.

Jim Eng jimeng at umich.edu
Wed Apr 28 16:25:43 PDT 2010


Hi Lydia,

I read in an earlier message that the intent of that was to distinguish whether a failed login was due to an incorrect password or an incorrect username. Did your IT folks say whether there is a way to query Kerberos in a way that distinguishes those two cases?

Jim



On Apr 28, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Lydia Li wrote:

> Seth Theriault wrote:
>> Lydia Li wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> I guess we could change this single valued property to
>>> multi-valued property that includes old and new messages.
>>> 
>> 
>> If you would like to provide a patch for this capability, we
>> could certainly check into it.
>> 
> 
> Our IT said that these fake attempts to check userKnownKerberos "are basically 
> indistinguishable from an attack on the KDC.  If we ever implemented account 
> lockout or other defenses against attempts to crack Kerberos passwords, 
> either Coursework or possibly the users Coursework is checkout would be locked 
> out of Kerberos for the repeated failed login". 
> 
> 
> So they have suggested me to instead log in to our ldap and check the kerberosStatus for a user. 
> This, however, would be an institution specific implementation. 
> 
> thanks,
> Lydia
> 
> 
> 
>> Seth
>> 
> 
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