[Building Sakai] Cafe trunk checkout is broken

Wed Oct 14 15:56:09 PDT 2009

I'll maintain the cafe profile since I'm working more on a full trunk  
source now than a cafe source. Once we get the dependencies sorted, we  
can then push any updates back to the cafe .externals and pom.

It's important to note though, that because some sources have been  
removed from a default trunk source checkout and rolled into two  
single binary artifacts that come down at deploy time, ie:

* cm-service, gradebook-service and sections-service are in Edu- 
Services [1]
* archive, privacy and eduperson are in Common [2]

then unless cafe checks the additional sources that have been removed,  
what is deployed is going to be a bit larger than it currently is,  
since it will need to pull in both of those bundles to get the  
necessary services in, assuming they are all needed.

Unless we can pull down only part of these binary artifacts?

cheers,
Steve

[1]https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/edu-services/trunk/
[2] https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/common/trunk/

On 15/10/2009, at 12:24 AM, Aaron Zeckoski wrote:

> I should point out that cafe has gone with almost no changes since it
> was created. The maint on it is pretty low.
>
> Aslo, as long as the cafe profile does the same thing as the cafe
> build it is fine. If it deviates a good bit then there is going to be
> confusion.
> -AZ
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Anthony Whyte <arwhyte at umich.edu>  
> wrote:
>> I think it is important that one or more people raise their hands  
>> and commit
>> to maintaining cafe trunk/branches/tags in svn for n-period of  
>> time; perhaps
>> even create a Jira project to support the effort so that issues can  
>> be filed
>> and tracked; that way we avoid cafe going the way of mini.
>>
>> I think too that changing the -Pcafe profile name in trunk to  
>> something
>> other than "cafe" will create more confusion; the profile simply  
>> mimics a
>> cafe build/deploy should one choose to check out Sakai trunk in its
>> entirety.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Anth
>>
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Steve Swinsburg wrote:
>>
>>> Possibly, but it would be good to see the cafe source checkout stay
>>> alive so that we can have a smaller checkout if desired. We used to
>>> have the 'mini' profile in the main full source, but that was out of
>>> date so we removed it and replaced it with what cafe does, but in a
>>> full source checkout.  So you can so either source, but still have a
>>> smaller deployment.
>>>
>>> Probably a confusing choice of profile name in the full source
>>> version, should have called it 'mccafe' ;)
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14/10/2009, at 11:32 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cafe and mini allowed people to do a minimal checkout and minimal
>>>> build/deploy.  Instead of that, the proposal is to have a full
>>>> checkout and then a smaller build/deploy (not quite as minimal as
>>>> cafe).  Is that correct?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 14, 2009, at 6:12 AM, Aaron Zeckoski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't follow. The kernel should already be the smallest it is
>>>>> possible to be. If it is possible to have a "cafe" kernel then
>>>>> something is wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't think there is a need for that. Just adjust the  
>>>>> profile so
>>>>> it only builds and deploys the CM api and it should be fine right?
>>>>> It's not like the CM impl is part of the kernel (I hope).
>>>>>
>>>>> -AZ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:07 AM, David Horwitz <david.horwitz at uct.ac.za
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Cool was thinking -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have a cafe profile in the kernel-deploy (and maybe others)  
>>>>>> That
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> deploy a couple of chery picked components from the bundles that
>>>>>> are needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> D
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aaron Zeckoski wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both sadly. It is one of those things I complained about when it
>>>>>> went
>>>>>> it but there was no time to really do much about it.
>>>>>> However, ideally we should not force the impl on people who do  
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> need any course management code.
>>>>>> -AZ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:56 AM, David Horwitz
>>>>>> <david.horwitz at uct.ac.za
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the CM-api a runtime or compile time dependency?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aaron Zeckoski wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks like things are getting out of sync with all the  
>>>>>> shifting
>>>>>> around that is going on but we should deprecate cafe-trunk if the
>>>>>> profile is being maintained. That said, they are not currently  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> same (cafe should only have the CM api in it and not all of CM)  
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> some more work remains to be done here before that can happen.
>>>>>> -AZ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Steve Swinsburg
>>>>>> <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks like we are going to need to add core-deploy to the cafe
>>>>>> POMs
>>>>>> (ie in the cafe source and the build profile in trunk) and the
>>>>>> cafe .externals otherwise it will be missing the archive-api
>>>>>> altogether (which is part of common), and the cm-api (which is  
>>>>>> part
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> edu-services). This will cause failures on startup in a fresh
>>>>>> Tomcat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adding core-deploy should fix both.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The cafe .externals also checks out it's own version of an  
>>>>>> archive
>>>>>> module and pom. It can be removed from the cafe .externals. It's
>>>>>> already out of the pom so it won't build, its just redundant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll fix the trunk cafe build profile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14/10/2009, at 9:41 AM, Steve Swinsburg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just a note that you can also run a cafe build from a full trunk
>>>>>> source via the -Pcafe profile as Anthony says below. That profile
>>>>>> has been in for about a week and works just like the cafe source
>>>>>> does, if you don't want to do another source checkout. But the  
>>>>>> cafe
>>>>>> source is great!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14/10/2009, at 3:16 AM, Anthony Whyte wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For trunk, do an svn update and then:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> mvn -Pcafe clean install -Dmaven.test.skip=true sakai:deploy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anth
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 13, 2009, at 12:08 PM, Jim Eng wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks like revision 67589 has broken the Cafe build:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  http://source.sakaiproject.org/viewsvn?view=rev&revision=67589
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cafe trunk can no longer be checked out because archive-api
>>>>>> (https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/archive/trunk/archive-api
>>>>>> ) no longer exists in trunk even though it is specified in the
>>>>>> externals:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/cafe/trunk/.externals
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's possible some of the other projects have moved as well, but
>>>>>> attempting to checkout Cafe trunk fails at that point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm just wondering whether Cafe is being abandoned, or if it's
>>>>>> just a
>>>>>> lag in maintenance to deal with recent upheaval in subversion?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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