[Building Sakai] Core tools with significant planned 2.7 changes

Wed Jul 22 13:27:34 PDT 2009

I would say this should go into the Forum tool space.  It can be  
tagged appropriately so all like documents can get pulled into one  
space somewhere else. Just an opinion, though, and happy to have it  
come out another way.

Michael

On Jul 22, 2009, at 12:01, David Haines wrote:

> We are ready to start generating some pages to document the 2.7 Forums
> changes from Michigan.  We plan to base the information on the
> scorecard and the OSP feature template and to keep it in Confluence.
>
> Any suggestions on the proper location for these pages in Confluence?
> We probably want a standard location for such documentation so that it
> is easy to find.
>
> - Dave
>
> David Haines
> CTools Developer
> Digital Media Commons
> University of Michigan
> dlhaines at umich.edu
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 20, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Clay Fenlason wrote:
>
>> Re: Forums, perhaps "sweeping set of changes" goes too far, but if I
>> start digging into JIRAs and just read through SAK-13736 [1] I find a
>> fair bit of back and forth about what's really happening, and what
>> looks like a complex set of UI changes in a subtask (SAK-15535),
>> issues raised off-list, etc. Just a first impression, but it reads
>> like a significant volume of activity with some challenge of
>> coordination, and a not inconsiderable refinement of the UX.
>>
>> Is there someone who would be in a position to fully document the
>> user-facing change represented? It's not clear what every change
>> listed means, exactly. It looks like Gonzalo might be the authority,
>> but a number of things are happening there in parallel, and David  
>> made
>> some attempt to knit them together in another umbrella JIRA ... I'm
>> not sure who's in a position to draw it all together.
>>
>> ~Clay
>>
>> [1] http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-13736
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:19 AM, John Norman<john at caret.cam.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>> The description of Forums in this message seems at odds with the
>>> following quote from the page "A final release, Sakai 2.7 [...]  The
>>> user experience will not undergo any drastic changes and will remain
>>> relatively consistent through the end of the 2.x series to provide
>>> stability for local documentation and training materials and
>>> customizations"
>>>
>>> Looking at the page though, the changes listed read like less than
>>> "sweeping set of feature and UI changes" - but that doesn't mean  
>>> such
>>> changes are not in the code...
>>>
>>> The K2 JIRA roadmap link appears to take me to the K1 JIRA
>>>
>>> The link to the preview of Sakai 3 functionality will need to be
>>> updated from 3akai. I think Nico is going to update the demo server
>>> for the 131.111.21.17 server in the next day or so. That will then
>>> become the preferred preview for Sakai 3. At that point 3akai will
>>> become a 'Proof of Concept' for which aspects of Sakai 3 work on
>>> Sakai
>>> 2. Some server renaming may be appropriate at that point.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On 20 Jul 2009, at 14:33, Clay Fenlason wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm reviewing the list Peter collected of planned feature changes
>>>> across various tools. [1]  The focus of this list is changes to
>>>> existing code and capabilities, not, e.g., entirely new tools (I'm
>>>> bracketing and setting aside that latter concern right now). So far
>>>> the following stand out to me as areas of particular risk:
>>>>
>>>> (1) Forums - an apparently sweeping set of feature and UI changes,
>>>> with involvement from IU, Michigan, and UCT
>>>> (2) Site Info/Worksite setup - a set of changes which, while not
>>>> dramatic, carry a greater risk because they touch on matters of  
>>>> site
>>>> membership and site creation workflows
>>>> (3) Skin/markup changes - it's not clear how significant these
>>>> changes
>>>> are, or if they're backward compatible, but there seems to be a
>>>> strong
>>>> need for both documentation and some skin testing
>>>>
>>>> I suppose I have a few questions, for those who know more detail -
>>>> is
>>>> that page accurate, and are there other things there on that page
>>>> that
>>>> catch your eye?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Clay
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/x/6ICTAQ
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>> Georgia Institute of Technology
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