[Building Sakai] Use Sakai API to add members to site

Zhen Qian zqian at umich.edu
Thu Jul 16 11:30:26 PDT 2009


Thomas:

I am very interested in the federated ID lookup service as mentioned  
below. Is it in svn somewhere? Like UCDavis, UMich also have a  
Kerberos login id, a 8-digit student/faculty/staff id, email address,  
etc. In Site Info, instructor wants to see the 8-digit id along with  
user name and user login id.

SAK-10868 is about retrieving display name depend on context. Can we  
do something similar to display id depends on context?

Thanks,

- Zhen
On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Thomas Amsler wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Steve
> Swinsburg<s.swinsburg at lancaster.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Ok so "the EID is the one you login with" is the better  
>> explanation then.
>
> Not really. It all depends on what kind of ID management your
> institutions has. For example here at UCD, we have a loginID, Kerberos
> ID, but once the user has logged in, we replace that stored ID with
> our "Enterprise ID". To support all of that, we have written a
> federated ID lookup service that tries to resolve any kind of ID that
> the user enters or the system is using.
>
> So, the point is that some institutions have one ID for pretty much
> everything and there are other ones that have to deal with several
> different IDs (login, EID, email, studentId, etc.) This really all
> depends on what kind of ID management is used. This issue is actually
> more profound because sakai2 is lacking any kind of context related ID
> management. For example, in Gradebook our Instructors would like to
> see the studentID as the displayID, and in other cases, they want to
> see their email address as the displayID, etc.
>
>>
>> Enterprise ID is a foreign concept for pretty much everyone  
>> outside the US
>> so that term itself can be confusing. At least in universities  
>> where I have
>> performed integrations the student/staff number is the only thing  
>> that can
>> consistently identify someone, and that is never used publicly.  
>> That would
>> be considered the Enterprise ID in those cases.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Steve
>>
>> On 15 Jul 2009, at 21:14, Thomas Amsler wrote:
>>
>>> W.R.T. "The eid is the human readable one": This is not always the
>>> case and may be a bit misleading in as much as that folks may
>>> associate the EID with the DisplayID. The EID should be the
>>> institution's enterprise ID, which may or may not be human readable.
>>> Since folks tend to assume that the EID is human readable, they tend
>>> to use it as the displayId. This "misconception" in sakai2 has  
>>> hurt us
>>> quite a bit and required us to locally modify/fix sakai2.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> -- Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Steve
>>> Swinsburg<s.swinsburg at lancaster.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Phuc,
>>>> You need to use the userId, not the eid. The eid is the human  
>>>> readable
>>>> one,
>>>> ie jsmith26, the userId is the internal one. To get it, just do  
>>>> this:
>>>> String userid = UserDirectoryService.getUserByEid(eid).getId();
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Steve
>>>> ---
>>>> Steve Swinsburg
>>>> Portal Systems Developer
>>>> Centre for e-Science
>>>> Lancaster University
>>>> Lancaster
>>>> LA1 4YT
>>>> email: s.swinsburg at lancaster.ac.uk
>>>> phone: +44 (0) 1524 594870
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 15 Jul 2009, at 14:47, Phuc Bui wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> I use this API org.sakaiproject.site.api.Site to add members to  
>>>> site
>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>> addMember
>>>> void addMember(String userId,
>>>>               String roleId,
>>>>               boolean active,
>>>>               boolean provided)
>>>> Add a member to the AuthzGroup.
>>>> Parameters:
>>>> userId - The user.
>>>> role - The role name.
>>>> active - The active flag.
>>>> provided - If true, from an external provider.
>>>> -----------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> But when I used it, I got following warning, though I called
>>>> site.addMember(uid, roleId, true, true)
>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>> WARN: refreshAuthzGroup: cannot find eid for user: nluthuyntt  
>>>> (2009-07-15
>>>> 20:25:
>>>> 46,064
>>>> http-8080- 
>>>> Processor23_org.sakaiproject.authz.impl.DbAuthzGroupService)
>>>> WARN: refreshAuthzGroup: cannot find eid for user: nlu05130095
>>>> (2009-07-15
>>>> 20:25
>>>> :46,065
>>>> http-8080- 
>>>> Processor23_org.sakaiproject.authz.impl.DbAuthzGroupService)
>>>> WARN: refreshAuthzGroup: cannot find eid for user: nlu05130030
>>>> (2009-07-15
>>>> 20:25
>>>> :46,066
>>>> http-8080- 
>>>> Processor23_org.sakaiproject.authz.impl.DbAuthzGroupService)
>>>> WARN: refreshAuthzGroup: cannot find eid for user: nlu05130148
>>>> (2009-07-15
>>>> 20:25
>>>> :46,068
>>>> http-8080- 
>>>> Processor23_org.sakaiproject.authz.impl.DbAuthzGroupService)
>>>> WARN: refreshAuthzGroup: cannot find eid for user: nlu05130072
>>>> (2009-07-15
>>>> 20:25
>>>> :46,069
>>>> http-8080- 
>>>> Processor23_org.sakaiproject.authz.impl.DbAuthzGroupService)
>>>> -----------------------------------
>>>> I have implemented UserDirectoryProvider to read user’s data from
>>>> external
>>>> database and I can log in by those id (such as nluthuyntt,  
>>>> nlu05130095 …)
>>>>
>>>> What should I do more ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Phuc Bui
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