[sakai-core-team] Strange behaviour in master

Neal Caidin neal.caidin at apereo.org
Tue Mar 31 05:33:32 PDT 2015


Did this ever get resolved fully?

I'm hoping to get some QA testing during April.

Thanks,
Neal


On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Sam Ottenhoff <ottenhoff at longsight.com>
wrote:

> So does reverting KNL-1325 fix all issues reported in this thread?
>
> Earle, any thoughts here?
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:41 PM, José Mariano Luján <jmariano at um.es>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>> Agree with that Steve, the problem reported by Juanjo is really important
>> for QA purposes because I believe that when testing, most people do the
>> following:
>>
>> 1- login to a nightly server using demo accounts (instructor, ta,
>> student…)
>> 2- create a site (maybe using demo rosters)
>> 3- log in with different users to reproduce the jira you are testing
>> 4- Right now, at this point, only the site creator will be enrolled in
>> the site.
>>
>> So, lets say you are testing a Samigo ticket: instructor creates the
>> site, then creates an exam, then you try to log in with one student but it
>> is not in the site yet. Same happens with assignments. Also, if you are
>> testing something with roster or site info, no one is in the site until
>> some time has passed…
>>
>> Hope that helps to understand the problem,
>> Thanks!
>> Mariano
>>
>> El 12/3/2015, a las 23:50, Steve Swinsburg <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>
>> escribió:
>>
>> Further, I think any update should occur immediately, so updating perms
>> or roles should call the refresh.
>> On 13 Mar 2015 09:49, "Steve Swinsburg" <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This actually sounds pretty similar to an issue I noticed this morning
>>> where a user was promoted to maintainer but didnt get the proper set of
>>> permissions until after a cache flush.
>>>
>>> Of interest is that they got some maintain permissions immediately, ie
>>> could add participants, but not see grades etc so this might show an
>>> inconsistency in how tools check perms.
>>>
>>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-29153
>>> On 12 Mar 2015 22:38, "JUAN JOSé MEROñO SáNCHEZ" <jjmerono at um.es> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  There is a background process that runs every minute by default to
>>>> check a queue of realms and perform refreshAuthzGroup's call on them,
>>>> but before that there is a chache here:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/sakaiproject/sakai/blob/master/kernel/kernel-impl/src/main/java/org/sakaiproject/authz/impl/DbAuthzGroupService.java#L815
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I'm wrong but I think is related with this cache, Earl could you
>>>> confirm if I'm wrong?
>>>>
>>>> El 11/03/2015 16:04, Matthew Jones escribió:
>>>>
>>>> It looks like this isn't a cache, and it is schedule by default to run
>>>> the refresh every minute. If it's taking 20 minutes that seems like
>>>> something is wrong? I think it could be *nice* if there was a way to force
>>>> this to run (like a button on the Memory page or somewhere), but not sure
>>>> why it would be taking so long or what to set in a test enviornment to
>>>> change that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:22 AM, JUAN JOSé MEROñO SáNCHEZ <
>>>> jjmerono at um.es> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Core Team,
>>>>>
>>>>>      I've notice a strange behaviour in master and I think is due to
>>>>> "https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/KNL-1325".
>>>>>      Now you're not able to see participants immediatly after creating
>>>>> a
>>>>> course site.
>>>>>      I think refreshAuthGroup is cached with no one else but the site's
>>>>> creator, and participants appear only when cache expires (default
>>>>> 20m?).
>>>>> The "clear caches" button in administration workspace doesn't help.
>>>>>      I think this is not the desire behaviour specially when you are
>>>>> testing and you need to create course sites and use those members in
>>>>> the
>>>>> site immediatly :(
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks !!
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