[Deploying Sakai] [Building Sakai] Problems making grades visible in Gradebook

Noah Botimer nbotimer at unicon.net
Wed Jul 3 06:20:09 PDT 2013

Hi folks,

The issue is a little more subtle than described below, but I won't go 
into too much detail here. What's more important is that I think we have 
most of a fix implemented:


I've talked with Chuck Hedrick about Lessons and there will probably be 
a resolution to an additional issue there today (which was discussed in 
another thread).

There are lots of comments. Please review and provide feedback.

Zhen, I'd especially like your blessing on the little change to 

If the approach passes muster, we'll give some implementation advice to 
contrib tools -- it's a pretty simple addition to the providers, 
implementing one additional list method. It's in a supplemental 
interface for now, so it won't accidentally break existing contrib 
providers, though they will need to implement it for full functionality.


On 07/02/2013 08:13 PM, Neal Caidin wrote:
> Hi All,
> Looping in QA and Production.
> My understanding is that 
> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-23733 has the following symptoms:
> For Contrib tools which use Groups to integrate with the Gradebook the 
> student cannot see the grade assigned by the instructor and the grade 
> is not included in the Course Grade calculation.
> Same symptoms for the Lessons tool.
> I do not believe that it affects Assignments, Forums, or Test and 
> Quizzes (Samigo).
> No ETA for SAK-23733 but it is being actively worked on. Not sure yet 
> if this will be in CLE 2.9.3 or not, but we are a little behind in any 
> case (we have not yet released our first release candidate).
> Thanks,
> Neal Caidin
> Sakai CLE Community Coordinator
> Apereo Foundation
> neal.caidin at apereo.org <mailto:neal.caidin at apereo.org>
> Skype: nealkdin
> On Jul 2, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Kevin Takacs <ktakacs at anisakai.com 
> <mailto:ktakacs at anisakai.com>> wrote:
>> We ran into the same problem, and I have started working on an 
>> ExternalAssignmentProvider implementation for JForum.  I hope to have 
>> it completed soon and will contribute it within the next few days.
>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Zhen Qian <zqian at umich.edu 
>> <mailto:zqian at umich.edu>> wrote:
>>     Hi, George:
>>     If you are running 2.9, I do believe lack of
>>     "ExternalAssignmentProvider" impl is the cause of the problem.
>>     JForum, same as Test Center, are contrib tools from etudes, and
>>     neither implements ExternalAssignmentProvider API. We have
>>     patched Test Center locally in UMICH-766
>>     <https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/UMICH-766>.
>>     Since people are actively working on SAK-23733
>>     <https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-23733> to make
>>     ExternalAssignmentProvider impl backward compatible, I would
>>     suggest to wait for SAK-23733 patch, instead of writing an impl
>>     of ExternalAssignmentProvider in JForum.
>>     Thanks,
>>     - Zhen
>>     On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 4:16 PM, George Pipkin <gpp8p at virginia.edu
>>     <mailto:gpp8p at virginia.edu>> wrote:
>>         Hi -
>>            We've run into a problem in which a graded Jforum Forum
>>         transfers grades to GB, but these grades are not
>>         visible to the students.  I'm wondering if this problem might
>>         be related to ExternalAssignmentProvider - is
>>         it implemented in Jforums ?  There's be a bit of discussion
>>         about this surrounding SAK-23733
>>         <https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-23733>.  Since
>>         the implication of not implementing it might include some
>>         impacts on GB grade totals, you can understand
>>         why we at U.Va. are interested in understanding this problem
>>         better.
>>                         - George Pipkin
>>                            U.Va.

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