[DG: Teaching & Learning] Possible merge of Sakai-user and Pedagogy lists

[Josh Baron]

Little history here...

The pedagogy list dates back to the start of Sakai I believe (before I got 
involved at least).  Over the years its use has ranged from mostly 
administrative, planning calls, etc., to more strategic discussions around 
teaching and learning issues.  I believe the Using Sakai list was created, 
more recently, to give people a place to ask more functional questions 
about how a tool works, etc.

In terms of my thoughts...

I think merging is best as I tend to end up posting to both all of the 
time not knowing who is on one but not the other.  I would suggest that we 
consider referring to this as the "teaching and learning list" or some 
similar terms rather than pedagogy as over the years there have been 
discussions around the term "pedagogy" being confusing to some in other 
parts of the world where the term is not used much or because it can mean 
different things to different people.  I think teaching and learning is 
clearer (I actually think we tried to change the name at one point but hit 
a technical issue and weren't able to do so).

FYI, Josh

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Joshua Baron
Senior Academic Technology Officer
Marist College
Poughkeepsie, New York  12601
(845) 575-3623 (work)
Twitter: JoshBaron



From:   Laura Gekeler <lgekeler at nd.edu>
To:     "sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org Server" 
<sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>, "pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org" 
<pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org>, 
Date:   01/14/2015 02:46 PM
Subject:        Re: [DG: Teaching & Learning] Possible merge of Sakai-user 
and Pedagogy lists
Sent by:        pedagogy-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org



The question about Resources & Import from Site was from me, so I'll take 
a stab at why I chose that list - my question wasn't directly related to 
pedagogy but more of a "how is this supposed to work"  question. I'd be 
relieved not to have to spend time thinking in depth about which group is 
more likely to be interested in my question/comment/topic... 

I subscribe to both groups and would be in favor of merging them.

Laura


Laura Gekeler
LMS Professional //Concurrent Instructor
University of Notre Dame
P:574-631-2402


On 14 January 2015 at 13:14, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org> wrote:
[to sakai-user and pedagogy]

Hi All,

We are in the process of a move from the current Collab email server to 
using Apereo Google Groups. During the move I am wondering if it makes 
sense to merge sakai-user and pedagogy into one list. Fewer lists means 
simpler to pick the right list to which to post. 

Stats:

# of subscribers to sakai-user : 694
# of subscribers to pedagogy : 500

# of subscribers overlapping (exist in both sakai-user and pedagogy): 245

It looks to me like the majority of posts to pedagogy are administrative. 
Meeting announcements, webinar announcements, conference announcements are 
common. Occasional question like "question about auto created groups when 
using the Lessons tool and Forums". 

Sakai-user has more questions on it, I think. "Resources management & 
Import from Site", Making it so that the word "Sakai" does not appear on 
any onscreen test, "adding another wiki tool".  Etc. Still announcements 
there too , but seems like more questions.

Sakai-user archives - http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai-user/
Pedagogy archives - http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/pedagogy/

Please think about it and let me know what you think (feel free to copy 
both lists. It could make it more of a conversation.)

Thanks,
Neal







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