[DG: Teaching & Learning] Assignment resubmission issue

[Jim Mezzanotte]

Hi Neal,

On the one hand, I can definitely understand the use case here--if
you're an instructor allowing a resubmission, you probably want
comments to be displayed, since they will help a student with that
resubmission.

But IMHO, the determining question should always be, what is the
expected behavior for a certain button label/functionality?

In this case, "save" means two things--it means saving score/comment,
regardless of release (visibility), but it also means applying the
resubmission setting, again regardless of release.

So essentially, "release" only has to do with score/comment
visibility. And if clicking "save and don't release" results in a
student seeing a score/comment, that definitely isn't expected
behavior.

Maybe the deeper problem is that "save" and "release" functions are
combined. For example, it might be better to have only a "save"
button, and then have a separate button or checkmark for releasing
scores/comments.

Best,
Jim Mezzanotte
Asahi Net International



On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org> wrote:
> [sakai-dev, sakai-qa, and pedagogy]
>
> Hi all,
>
> Feedback requested on a bug found with Assignments. If interested please
> read through and see if the proposed solution/Patch makes sense.
>
> The bug is in Sakai 2.9 and possibly earlier and still exists in the current
> version of Sakai 10.  We may or may not have time to get a fix into 10.0
> before we release, in which case the fix would be in 10.1 . Will need QA
> resources to help with this one.
>
> Problem
> Assignments tool:  If a student takes an assignment, the instructor grades
> it and chooses the "Allow Resubmission" checkbox and clicks the  "Save and
> Don't Release to Student" button , then when the student resubmits the
> assignment and the instructor goes to look at the resubmitted text, it is
> the old text from the original submission. The student sees the updated text
> that they submitted, it is getting saved. Oddly, if the instructor chooses
> "Save and Release to Student" with the "Allow Resubmission" checkbox the
> process works fine and the instructor does see the updated assignment text.
>
> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-26323
>
> Additional Notes
> The problem appears to be only with the resubmission of the assignment text
> and not with attachments, based on my testing so far.
> There are two places in which an instructor can allow student resubmissions,
> the first grading page with a list of students, and grading an single
> assignment. In Sakai 10.0 the first grading page option for submitting
> assignments is broken, but does work on Sakai 2.9. I'm seeing the same
> problem with both workflows however, the grading page with list of students
> and individual grading pages.
>
> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-26324
>
> Proposed solution/Patch
> Fixes the problem described above (SAK-26323) and changes the current
> behavior slightly. Currently, if the instructor chooses "Allow
> Resubmission"/"Save and Don't Release to Student" , the student will have
> the opportunity to resubmit but will not see the instructor comment on
> his/her original work. The student does see the instructor comment if "Allow
> Resubmission"/"Save and Release to Student" combination is used.
>
> In the slightly changed, newly proposed workflow, the student would see the
> instructor comment on the first resubmission attempt, on the grounds that
> the student should edit their submission to reflect the comment. (I hope I
> got this right).
>
> This seems like an improvement to me, do you agree?
>
> Thanks,
> Neal
>
>
>
> --
> Neal Caidin
> Sakai Community Coordinator
> Apereo Foundation
> neal.caidin at apereo.org
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