[DG: Teaching & Learning] Fwd: [Building Sakai] New joinable site settings, which should be on by default? (SAK-24423)

[Jeff Ziegler]

My 2¢.

Only setting two should be on by default.  Based on years of feedback and user requests I think our users will find functions 1, 2, and especially 3 very useful.  However, in my experience, many site maintainers are unaware that Group functionality exists.  So to have a default that (seems) to require them to create a group before making their site Joinable would be a confusion point and lead to a user support request.  

It's possible I'm misunderstanding how the Joiner Group function works in practice; I generally prefer to do a hands-on run-through of new functionality before making suggestions, but I don't think it should be on by default.  It is a nice feature, tho.

Jeff 




On Jan 30, 2014, at 4:51 PM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org> wrote:

> Hi Pedagogy group,
> 
> This could be a good one to chime into. It is new behavior in Sakai 10 and we might want to recommend default behaviors. See Brian's email below. Also, his recommendation in the last paragraph seems pretty reasonable to me.
> 
> Thanks,
> Neal
> 
> 
>> From: Brian Jones <bjones86 at uwo.ca>
>> Date: January 30, 2014 at 1:44 PM
>> To: 'dev sakai' <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>> Subject: [Building Sakai] New joinable site settings, which should be on by default? (SAK-24423)
>> Hi,
>> 
>> SAK-24423 introduces several new settings available for use with joinable
>> sites. I would like to gauge the community as to what people think are good
>> candidates for being turned ON by default. These settings are available (if
>> enabled) on the 'Manage Access' page of the 'Site Info' tool. The new
>> settings are:
>> 
>> 1) Joiner group - this setting allows maintainers of a site to select a
>> group that joiners will be placed into automatically.
>> 
>> 2) Join notification - when enabled for a site, this will send email
>> notifications to maintainers of the site when a user joins the site.
>> 
>> 3) Exclude from public list - when enabled for a site, users will not see
>> this site in the 'Joinable Sites' interface of the 'Membership' tool.
>> 
>> 4) Limit by account type(s) - this setting allows maintainers to specify
>> exactly what user account types are allowed to join the site.
>> 
>> 5) Join from 'Site Browser' tool - this is a global setting (not per site),
>> and enables people to join a site directly from the 'Site Browser' on the
>> gateway.
>> 
>> My recommendation so far has been to enable 1) and 2) by default, however
>> I'm not sure if other institutions may find some of the other settings
>> useful to be enabled by default as well.
>> 
>> Please join the conversation and let us know what you think! The more input
>> the better. Also, if you'd like more information/clarification on any of
>> these settings, just let me know.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Brian Jones
>> Programmer/Analyst
>> Information Technology Services
>> Support Services Building, Room 4326
>> Western University
>> (519) 661-2111 x86969
>> bjones86 at uwo.ca
>> 
>> 
>> 
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CTools Service Manager
ITS Teaching and Learning Group
University of Michigan

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