[DG: Teaching & Learning] Follow up comment - teaching and learning call

[Josh Baron]

John,

Thanks for the additional thoughts, all good points from my perspective.

In terms of the first issue you've raised, I think that has been an topic 
of discussion for many years within the Sakai community.  I know that the 
Open Academic Environment, being aware of the need to facilitate 
contributions from developers with skills other than Java, created this 
concept of the widget library that allows for developing using scripting 
languages.  Maybe there is a way to look to implement something like this 
in the CLE.

I like the idea of prioritizing integration points, let's talk more next 
week on that point.

Josh


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Joshua Baron
Senior Academic Technology Officer
Marist College
Poughkeepsie, New York  12601
(845) 575-3623 (work)
Twitter: JoshBaron



From:   "Grossman,John E" <john.grossman at mdanderson.org>
To:     "pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org" 
<pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org>, 
Date:   07/11/2013 12:21 PM
Subject:        [DG: Teaching & Learning] Follow up comment - teaching and 
learning        call
Sent by:        pedagogy-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org



The call yesterday about a Sakai teaching and learning wish list and about 
Sakai-specific development vs. integration was very interesting. Here are 
a few additional thoughts.
Development of Sakai-specific features or enhancements requires a fair 
amount of understanding about Sakai architecture as well as the 
development and deployment tools. This is a significant barrier to entry. 
It excludes all the developers in the world, such as .NET, PHP, Python and 
Ruby developers,  who don't care to work with the Sakai toolkit . It also 
excludes people who are working on cloud-based services. Improvements in 
external tool integration opens up Sakai to all those folks and their 
ideas and creativity.
One way to approach an external tool integration wish list for teaching 
and learning would be to ask "What are the core aspects of Sakai that need 
to be available to external tools to enhance teaching?" LTI now supports 
outbound user names, email addresses, and roster. It supports inbound 
grades, settings and access to the Lessons API. Janice mentioned 
resources. We could identify others, prioritize them and propose them to 
the development community.
A related need for integration with external tools is clear instructions 
on how to implement the integration.
Looking forward to the next steps.

John

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John Grossman
Director, Academic Technology Services
The University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center
713-745-0305
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