[DG: Teaching & Learning] Syllabus related mini-spec discussion this Thursday , October 7, 3PM pacific 6 PM eastern, Friday 8AM NSW

Fri Oct 8 05:51:58 PDT 2010

The personas in this mini-spec are focused on the tasks of implementing
their own course plan.
I wonder if the team considered a persona where a faculty is planning a
course that must address and document certain outcomes that come from their
department head or a professional association.

If that sort of activity was to occur, doing it during the planning of the
sequence of the course activities would make a lot of sense, particularly
when you start to look look at commenting/assessing student work as it would
frame the discussion about whether the work done met the objectives.

Maybe this is sort of curriculum mapping should be considered or listed as a
"non-goal".

Sean Keesler
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On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Keli Sato Amann <kamann at stanford.edu> wrote:

> Hello
> Notes from our meeting today about syllabus and how it's being addressed by
> the minispec process can be found here.
> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/UX/October+7%2C+2010
>
> For convenience, the notes are also copied below.
>
> Best to all,
> Keli
>
> What was discussed
> 1. Syllabus Manifesto: This is meant to be an overview of syllabus related
> issues; a placeholder has been placed here (
> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/3AK/Syllabus+Manifesto ).
> Jacques and Yitna have agreed to work on this together.
>
> 2. Minispecs related to Syllabus: minispecs address functionality, but
> starting with a user perspective rather than a technical one. There are
> various existing minispec just starting to be written that are related to
> Syllabus. I pointed out a few that are written now, as well as some
> prospective ones that might  be written to cover other aspects of Syllabus
>  (
> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/3AK/Related+minispecs+and+references)--however ,
> it will be up to Clay to create actual minispec titles
>
> 3. Minispec on arranging structured flow of content and activities: Keli
> walked through one minispec (
> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/3AK/I+want+to+arrange+a+structured+flow+of+content+and+activities
> ); everyone was encouraged to leave comments on this page (since those who
> will be editing it or referencing it may not be on this call or on T&L
> list). There were a few questions about the minispec as written.
>         a. Why "activities" and not "tasks"? The term "task" was introduced
> in earlier minispecs. They are things that someone, or some group, is
> assigned to do, typically by a certain date, or that someone might give to
> themselves. Those early minispecs also described "activity" as the thing
> that someone was asked to do. Activities have an existence before they are
> assigned to someone or given a date. Case in point: the third persona in the
> minispec, an instructional technology associate named Amanda, is creating a
> standalone independent learning module made of activities. The module and
> the activities and content within it is not yet assigned (and I suppose
> could even be used by a someone without being required)
>         b. Patrice's scenario seems more prescriptive than others. Girish
> represents a user creating a new course, so all his efforts to create a
> schedule is new. Patrice is there to represent an instructor with an
> existing schedule in Word. Jacques asked why she couldn't just paste her
> word doc into a page, in which case it could be taken care of with existing
> minispecs on page creation (
> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/3AK/I+want+to+create+pages+with+rich+functionality
> ). I said that Patrice actually would like the benefits of a syllabus built
> on structured data, but might get discouraged if it is too hard. Her story (
> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/3AK/Patrice%2C+Content-10  ) is
> a reminder to the designers reading the minispec to aim for a design
> solution that will work for both of them, and not necessarily by putting a
> fork in the road. However, Patrice's scenario, if not her user story, does
> have more design thinking than a minispec should, though it was hard not to
> when you have the premise that the system should try to do as much as
> possible to assist Patrice. A functional analyst assigned to edit this might
> try to do better to take out the specifics from the scenario, but I think
> Patrice's story itself must stay.
>         c. Is assessment related to tasks? There is a relationship, for
> sure. There were 4 minispecs on tasks, one on creation, one on fulfilling,
> one on evaluating a student's work, and one on students collecting the work
> they had turned in. Overall, I think Tasks are being moved down in priority
> to quarter 3, however the third one on evaluating student work (
> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/3AK/I+want+to+provide+feedback+on+completed+work
> ) was taken out because it will be readdressed as part of a larger minispec
> tentatively titled "I want to comment on something." This is because
> commenting has value, even if reading a page or viewing some content was not
> an assigned task.
>
> 4. Continue this meeting? Everyone agreed this meeting should continue.
> Jacques will organize, Daphne and John Hayes will serve as liasons to the
> managed project.
>
> 5. "homework" for next meeting in 2 weeks: Yitna and Jacques will work on
> manifesto (
> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/3AK/Syllabus+Manifesto ), all
> others should review and leave comments on minispec (
> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/3AK/I+want+to+arrange+a+structured+flow+of+content+and+activities
>  )
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keli Sato Amann" <kamann at stanford.edu>
> To: "Yitna Firdyiwek (ybf2u)" <ybf2u at eservices.virginia.edu>, "Lynn E.
> Ward" <leward at iupui.edu>, "Maryanne Mozer" <MMozer at csu.edu.au>, "Jacques
> Raynauld" <jacques.raynauld at hec.ca>, "Patricia Gordon (psg3a)" <
> psg3a at eservices.virginia.edu>, "Daphne Ogle" <daphne at media.berkeley.edu>,
> "Stephanie Conley (sbs8j)" <sbs8j at eservices.virginia.edu>, "Clay Fenlason"
> <clay.fenlason at et.gatech.edu>, "pedagogy Learning" <
> pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2010 7:21:54 PM
> Subject: Syllabus related mini-spec discussion this Thursday , October 7,
> 3PM pacific 6 PM eastern, Friday 8AM NSW
>
> Hello
> Two of the members of the S3 managed UX team, Daphne Ogle from Berkeley and
> myself, have been having meetings every other Thursday since the Denver
> conference with representatives of three schools who had developed syllabi
> that work in the S2 environment, to keep the conversation going about
> syllabus, knowing it would eventually be important, but not exactly knowing
> how we could roll this into the managed project.
>
> Recently, the minispec process emerged as a way for the managed project to
> engage with the community. It's continuing to evolve but we are now starting
> to take on minispecs related to portfolio and syllabus. Thus, we'd like to
> get some input from both the syllabus BOF and the wider T&L community on
> what is starting to emerge. The intention of the minispec is to be an
> expression of user need, not a technical spec or an expression of
> design--that will come down the road.
>
> Agenda: Overview of minispecs relating to syllabus as a sequenced list of
> content and activities (will send links closer to Thursday)
> When: Thursday, 3PM pacific 6 PM eastern, Friday 8AM NSW
> Where: Elluminate--please log in a little early  to set up whiteboard and
> voice (Elluminate was used to avoid international calls. It works like a
> walkie-talkie--you have to press the speaker button to talk).
> https://sas.elluminate.com/m.jnlp?password=M.C8FA6AF41842E2BCBFE0AA3BEBD24E
>
> Please RSVP by writing your name on this page so we can get a sense of who
> is coming:
> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/UX/October+7%2C+2010
>
> It's unclear if future meetings of the BOF are needed. I still think
> members of the managed project (someone other than me as I'm about to go on
> leave until February) will still ask for feedback and advice from this group
> as well as the wider T&L community, but it may be via comments and email,
> rather than a meeting.
>
> Keli Amann
> User Experience Specialist
> Academic Computing Services, Stanford University
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