[DG: Teaching & Learning] Learning Activities and Portfolios: time for a talk?
nate.angell at rsmart.com
nate.angell at rsmart.com
Fri Mar 26 10:36:07 PDT 2010
Lucy:
I also found your post promising and inspiring. I encourage you all at
NYU to share more of the valuable work you are doing.
This thread touches on something that I have long felt has slowed
portfolio adoption and use in Sakai.
To be overly simplistic, I see portfolio as having four main
activities that can be seen as a kind of lifecycle.
1) Collecting, authoring and reflecting
2) Sharing and conversing
3) Relating and evaluating (to other learning/social practices)
4) Reporting, synthesizing, and analyizing
Sakai portfolio tools—along with a lot of other major portfolio tools
—have never really provided a satisfying experience for number 1
above. So above all, I believe the first priority for portfolio
capabilities in Sakai 3 should be to provide a satisfying basic
experience for portfolio authors. Everything else is a secondary
priority.
Fortunately, it seems the basic authoring capabilities of Sakai 3 will
take us a long way towards that first priority.
Sakai portfolio tools have also fallen short on providing good
pathways for number 4 above. So just as the lack of satisfying
authoring tools has hampered user adoption and use, the lack of
satisfying reporting tools has hampered institutional adoption and
use. I know less about basic reporting capabilities in Sakai 3, but I
would hope that they are able to leapfrog Sakai 2's reporting
complexities.
Sakai 2 has focused a lot of effort on portfolio activities in numbers
2-3 above, but because it's hard to get stuff in and take things out,
they often end up a barren, bloated middle.
It's as if Sakai portfolio tools have so far been thin on both ends
and fat in the middle. We should work to make the Sakai 3 portfolio
experience fat on both ends and thin in the middle: moving from the
tuber to the hourglass.
- Nate
On Mar 26, 2010, at 7:47 AM, Ray Davis <ray at media.berkeley.edu> wrote:
> That's great news, Lucy -- this is the sort of
> small-pieces-loosely-joined flexibility I've been hoping would
> emerge in
> Sakai 3, but I had no idea that NYU had advanced so far so quickly!
> Speaking as a developer rather than an instructor, I hope some of
> these
> early samples can be shared with the community.
>
> I recently learned from our (non-Sakai-using) friend Tom Lewis that
> his
> team at U. Washington has begun experimenting successfully with Google
> Sites integration to allow similar flexibility between resources
> associated with locally-managed course enrollments and
> personally-managed resources on Google. I suspect it won't be long
> before some intrepid team starts similar experimentation on a Sakai 3
> foundation.
>
> Best,
> Ray
>
> On 3/25/10 11:48 AM, Lucile G Appert wrote:
>> As I have watched this discussion (along with those around the
>> spreadsheet and portfolios in general) develop, I’ve been feeling
>> more and more the need for some clarity about what Sakai 3 is and
>> how that differs from Sakai 2 as well as standard LMS. In an earli
>> er post John Norman mentioned that NYU is looking at a different a
>> pproach to portfolios, one that keeps them within the system where
>> course and project sites are located, and I’d like to share what
>> that looks like as well as our rationale for adopting it.
>>
>> First, a few observations about the conversations at hand. At NYU,
>> we are getting ready to do the first Sakai 3 pilot, a QA
>> environment for faculty that opens March 31. What we know about
>> Sakai 3, and in fact the reason we were able to put together a
>> collaboration between ITS and academic units to develop it, is that
>> it gets rid of many of the issues that hamper standard LMS
>> development. Here’s why: instead of “baking in” a lot of
>> features/tools, it allows users (in every category from institutio
>> ns to individuals) to incorporate these as needed in the form of w
>> idgets or templates that do not affect the basic system architectu
>> re. I often use this analogy -- Sakai 3 is a like a loft into whic
>> h users can deploy and retract folding walls (templates, widgets)
>> to make rooms as needed. While the loft helps support these walls,
>> building or taking them down does not affect the loft's structure.
>>
>> One thing that has puzzled me about the some of the user needs
>> discussions is that many issues seem to actually be template and
>> widget issues that can be solved on the school, department, or even
>> individual level. A small group of these needs will likely
>> influence larger architectural decisions such as how tags or groups
>> are handled (internally or externally), or permissions, and the
>> persona discussions are important for bringing that out. However,
>> it might be better to foreground that focus so that people don’t g
>> et distracted from the real discussion.
>>
>> In the case of our Simonides portfolio tool, it is embedded in just
>> one page in a Sakai 3 site owned by a student and to which his or
>> her advisors/professors have access. In addition to the option of
>> having a portfolio site, we will also give everyone at NYU a
>> Networking project site with an NYU Network page as the default
>> opening page and the potential to create other pages.
>>
>> The basis of our portfolio is a visual organization plan (with a
>> selection of templates) that overlays a traditional file
>> structure. On every level there is the opportunity for instructor/
>> advisor comment. Our goal is to give students a space to save all
>> the materials they consider important from their course and co-
>> curricular work and to be able to rework them into new documents in
>> the Simonides site using the standard page creation tool. Moreoer,
>> we believe letting students create the portfolio’s organizational
>> structure for themselves can be as much of a learning exercise and
>> diagnostic tool as the items they are arranging.
>>
>> This freer structure means that we are not concerned with “baking
>> in” assessment tools like matrices. The truth is, with a good tagg
>> ing tool, you don’t need to focus on matrices and where to build t
>> hem in. You just need to focus on developing the meta tool and the
>> n let people customize and deploy it for varied purposes.
>>
>> In fact, building complicated assessment matrices into the system
>> may be counterproductive. For example, NYU’s Nursing School is pa
>> rt of our Sakai 3 initiative and while they want a portfolio-type
>> tool geared to the accreditation standards their students must dem
>> onstrate, experience has taught them that they also need a flexibl
>> e way to generate the matrices for assessment. Accreditation stand
>> ards change, sometimes from year to year, and it makes more sense
>> for students to have a body of tagged work from which they can gen
>> erate assessment matrices than to build matrices into the system a
>> nd have to change the whole system each time standards change.
>>
>> We’ve also made our Simonides portfolio into a Collections Widget
>> for Sakai 3 that anyone can pull into a site and create a folder-s
>> tructured collection within. That means that you can actually mode
>> l mini-portfolios and have students create them in classes.
>>
>> The upshot of this example is that in Sakai 3, portfolios do not
>> have to be their own add-on, auxiliary spaces that require deeply
>> customized tools and practices. Rather, they, like course sites and
>> many other previously “specialized” functionalities, can coexist
>> in the same basic academic network.
>>
>> Intellectually, they already do, and the time is ripe for a
>> technology like Sakai 3 that reflects that continuum rather than
>> disrupts it.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Lucy
>> ____________________
>> Lucy Appert, PhD
>> Associate Director of Educational Technology
>> Liberal Studies Program
>> New York University
>> 726 Broadway, Rm. 632
>> New York, NY 10003
>> (212) 998-7168
>> lucy.appert at nyu.edu
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Michael Feldstein<michael.feldstein at oracle.com>
>> Date: Friday, March 19, 2010 2:36 pm
>> Subject: Re: [DG: Teaching& Learning] [DG: User Experience]
>> Teaching& Learning] Learning Activities and Portfolios: time for a
>> talk?
>> To: Jacques Raynauld<jacques.raynauld at hec.ca>, pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> , sakai-ux at collab.sakaiproject.org, portfolio at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>
>>
>>> On the one hand, I think supporting these sorts of rich uses is
>>> important. On the other hand, too heavy an emphasis on these use
>>> cases
>>> is exactly what has killed many an ePortfolio initiative (both
>>> development and adoption). In my opinion, competency/learning
>>> objective assignment should be a pluggable service. Schools that
>>> need
>>> only a simple version should get the simple version. Schools that
>>> want
>>> something richer (and therefore more complex), should be able to
>>> have
>>> that too. But let's not design our entire ePortfolio vision around
>>> the
>>> most elaborate and difficult to implement scenarios that often
>>> require
>>> unrealistically large changes in the academic culture of a school.
>>>
>>> Given the high number of abject failures and relative dearth of
>>> smashing successes in the ePortfolio space, I think it is critical
>>> that we stick to articulating first principles and identifying
>>> fundamental building blocks that could be scaled to a rich and
>>> complex
>>> evaluation environment but don't assume or require it.
>>>
>>> - m
>>>
>>>
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>>> Oracle Higher Education Product Development
>>> 25 Christian Hill Road | Great Barrington, MA 01230
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jacques Raynauld [mailto:jacques.raynauld at hec.ca]
>>> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 2:22 PM
>>> To: pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org;
>>> sakai-ux at collab.sakaiproject.org; portfolio at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>> Subject: Re: [DG: User Experience] [DG: Teaching& Learning]
>>> Teaching
>>> & Learning] Learning Activities and Portfolios: time for a talk?
>>>
>>> To all of you that have contributed to the interesting discussion
>>> on
>>> Learning Activities and Portfolios: time for a talk?
>>>
>>> 1. I certainly approuve of the idea of integrating more closely
>>> the
>>>
>>> LMS and Portfolios systems. At the Université de Montréal and
>>> also
>>>
>>> some European universities (Lausanne), we see new specialized
>>> master
>>> programs being redesigned from the start using a completely
>>> integrated Module/Portfolio approach with a strong program
>>> competency/learning outcomes flavour. A typical module would
>>> include
>>> learning outcomes, learning activites (readings, exercices, etc.)
>>> and
>>> broad type assignments with reflexive components normally found in
>>> portfolios (matrix views are also planned). This is not the future,
>>> it is being designed right now with few tools available to support
>>> these approaches.
>>>
>>> 2. People have mentioned some tools (goal management) that could
>>> be
>>> used to link assigments or activities to learning
>>> outcomes/competencies. It is a good start but we need to approach
>>> this problem in a much more comprehensive manner. In some work we
>>> are
>>> currently doing for École Polytechnique in Montreal in the conte
>>> xt of
>>> the CDIO Syllabus (a detailed competency-based description for
>>> engineering), we face the following challenge. For some courses, the
>>> broad learning outcomes/competencies (say level 1 granularity) are
>>> going to be set by the instructor or most likely by the university
>>> at
>>> the course level. Based on a list of pre-assigned learning
>>> outcomes/competencies, instructors could set finer grain learning
>>> outcomes/competencies (say level 1.1 or 1.1.1) which are are
>>> pedagogically more relevant for the activities or assignments
>>> undertaken. This is the top-dowm approach. Another possibility is
>>> the bottom-up approach : competencies/learning outcomes could be
>>> set
>>> at the activities/assignments level and then added up
>>> automatically at
>>> the course level.
>>>
>>> 3. This kind of more complex learning outcomes/competencies
>>> integration might not be usual now but it very likely to sprawl in
>>> the
>>> near future.
>>> The CDIO initiative for engineering (http://ec.europa.eu/education/lifelong-learning-policy/doc44_en.htm
>>> ),
>>> some U.S. initiatives including the Lumina Foundation project in
>>> Indiana and some others states
>>> (http://chronicle.com/blogPost/Tuning-American-Higher-Ed/6774/), all
>>> point to some expanded functionalities that should be part of
>>> Sakai 3,
>>> most likely in a structured-page environment.
>>>
>>> This is a very interesting challenge for the community.
>>>
>>> Jacques Raynauld
>>> HEC Montréal
>>> Open Syllabus team
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, it is great to see this conversation develop and to see the
>>> direction it is taking. An LMS that allows for the types of
>>> functions
>>> that have traditionally been associated only with portfolios would
>>> be
>>> a wonderful development for us and probably a lot of other
>>> institutions because it would bring in best practices like learning
>>> objectives tied to assessment through rubrics or other methods and
>>> make them more common and central to teaching and learning. Learning
>>> activities like reflection and storage, selection and presentation
>>> of
>>> student work could be a more integral part of the learning
>>> experience
>>> for more students. Instead of having two separate systems (LMS&
>>> portfolio) to work through, both students and faculty would simply
>>> learn and use one unified robust and flexible system.
>>>
>>> The institution would also benefit by only having one system to
>>> fund
>>> and maintain plus the system would offer the ability for the
>>> institution to gather institutional level reporting data for
>>> accreditation and other administrative assessment needs. That may
>>> be a
>>> lot to expect at this point, but it can be a goal we work toward
>>> if we
>>> think it is a worthwhile idea.
>>>
>>> -Salwa
>>>
>>> Salwa Khan
>>> sk16 at txstate.edu
>>> Coordinator, IT Projects
>>> Instructional Technologies Support
>>> Texas State University
>>> 512 245-4390
>>>
>>> ______________________________________
>>> From: pedagogy-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>> [pedagogy-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Zaldivar,
>>> Marc
>>> [mzaldiva at vt.edu]
>>> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 8:05 AM
>>> To: pedagogy Learning; sakai-ux; portfolio
>>> Subject: Re: Teaching& Learning] [DG: User Experience] Learning
>>> Activities and Portfolios: time for a talk?
>>>
>>> Keli, et al,
>>>
>>> This is a wonderful conversation, and I'm glad to see it shaping up
>>> in such concrete detail.
>>>
>>> On 3/18/10 7:11 PM, "Keli Sato Amann"<kamann at stanford.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> The concern that prompted me to write was another situation: when
>>> program objectives have been mapped down to a course, when those
>>> objectives are actually attached to particular activities, and
>>> when an
>>> activity is graded according to those objectives. In this case,
>>> students don't have a choice of what maps to each aptitude--it's
>>> been
>>> specified for them. The work to be featured would be chosen by the
>>> instructor or department. An example might be a department that
>>> needs
>>> to prove that at least 90% of their students meet certain criteria
>>> by
>>> the end of the year-they use the results of certain assignments or
>>> tests in particular classes to demonstrate this.
>>>
>>> Is this situation actually within the portfolio domain? Do those
>>> who
>>> build portfolios need objectives mapped so discretely and for this
>>> reason or is this a separate area of concern? Lynn said that stating
>>> objectives for activities is a desirable thing, but that might
>>> just be
>>> because it's always good for students to know why you are asking
>>> them
>>> to do something and because it's always good to state objectives for
>>> any project so you can measure their later success.
>>>
>>> I thought this point and question you made, Keli, was one I could
>>> comment on. I do absolutely believe the functionality underlying
>>> the
>>> departmental/institutional-assessment type of portfolio is within
>>> the
>>> portfolio domain. The outputs are quite different, but the source
>>> material underneath of it is the same. A student would want to see
>>> various representations of her own work, created for different
>>> audiences (public and private). Departmental administrators would
>>> like to see larger collections, but often of very similar material
>>> for
>>> assessment, but in more summary-based form rather than individual
>>> webpages. Teachng faculty, I find, are right between: they often
>>> want
>>> to be able to access summary-type information for purposes of
>>> grading
>>> and evaluation, but they enjoy the individual view of a student's
>>> webpage portfolio when thinking about feedback on materials. For
>>> me,
>>> it all fits in at different levels of the same process of collect,
>>> select, reflect, connect... The stude
>>> nt-level portfolios we've been discussing so far are often
>>> "guided"
>>> at some level by the curriculum that the student is a part of. For
>>> some programs, that guidance is heavy-handed; for others, it's much
>>> broader. In either case, we've been encouraging programs to
>>> consider
>>> three types of portfolios before deciding which arrangement of
>>> tools/materials/outputs are best for them (without detail, we use
>>> something like the terms "assessment portfolio," "learning
>>> portfolio"
>>> and "professional development portfolio" as we discuss the
>>> arrangement
>>> of tools and outputs with programs; most programs end up with a
>>> blend
>>> of goals from these three). These determine whether we feature a
>>> matrix, a presentation template, develop reflection prompts or
>>> evaluation/feedback forms, and all sorts of other factors of
>>> portfolio
>>> deployment.
>>>
>>> I guess my point to this is that as we move forward with the notion
>>> that portfolio-like activity is connected to a lot of other activity
>>> in the system, then what we are thinking of is making sure that the
>>> options for goal management, assignment and reflection upon
>>> assignment, and sharing materials with various audiences (in various
>>> presentation modes) are central to Sakai 3. Those are at the
>>> heart of
>>> all of our portfolio activity, regardless of which tools we deploy.
>>> That's why tools like a blog and even tests and quizzes should
>>> potentially be available as part of a group or individual's
>>> portfolio:
>>> if we focus on the collection, selection, and connection of student
>>> and instructor data, then we're doing portfolio, IMHO.
>>>
>>> I ultimately agree with your assertion that it's good to encourage
>>> the best practice in the way the tools are put together. Just by
>>> having an optional place to connect an assignment to an
>>> institutional
>>> or departmental goal would encourage many to explore the
>>> advantages of
>>> this for themselves and for the students, for example. We have a
>>> lot
>>> of institutional effort being put into pedagogical training of all
>>> of
>>> our faculty, so it would certainly help many of our groups support
>>> the
>>> grassroots effort to improve assessment, student learning, and
>>> fruitful technology adoption.
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Marc Zaldivar, Ph.D.
>>> 2210A Torgersen Hall
>>> Director, Virginia Tech Electronic Portfolio Initiatives
>>> Blacksburg, VA 24061-0292
>>> Learning Technologies
>>> 540.231.8994
>>> Virginia Tech
>>> marcz at vt.edu
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