[DG: Teaching & Learning] Fwd: SCORM in Sakai

Hugo Jacobs hjacobs at loi.nl
Mon Aug 30 09:48:46 PDT 2010


Hi James, John,



I agree, getting to a situation where there is a 'fil rouge' through the learning environment is not easy and might make matters quite a bit more complex if we are not careful.



As it is something that is important for a distance learning organization as LOI, we did make some progress on building a tool on the Sakai 2.6/Indy platform. An early version of this was demonstrated at the tech demo in Denver, now we are approaching a state to release it into the wild and contribute it to the community.



Admittedly Learning Design is much more powerful, but this first iteration of our tool allows us to natively make learning paths through Sakai worksites. They follow a modular structure and give guidance on both programme and course level with learning activities to explain purpose and meaning. The activities then point to the exercises in assignments, mneme, portfolio and other learning materials like documents.



For LOI it basically means going from [cid:image001.gif at 01CB4873.FA47CEC0]  ,

To a more helpful structure of activities like [cid:image002.gif at 01CB4873.FA47CEC0] .





We will try to make this first iteration available somewhere in September, realistically more likely the second part of September. I hope that it will give LOI and community a chance to see where the strengths are of these concepts. Are they more suitable for distance learning? Is it useful in blended learning scenario's? Does something like over-structuring exist?



Finding out how this works for 2.x might help us learn how these features could find their place in the more modern concepts of Sakai 3. Meanwhile we'll keep a close eye on IMS CC and LD developments, of course.



Cheers Hugo



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-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: James Dalziel [mailto:james.dalziel at mq.edu.au]
Verzonden: maandag 30 augustus 2010 2:30
Aan: 'John Norman'; Hugo Jacobs
CC: 'Teaching & Learning Sakai Group'; 'Sakai Dev List'
Onderwerp: RE: [DG: Teaching & Learning] Fwd: SCORM in Sakai



Hi John and Sakai colleagues,



If you want to use Sakai 3 tools to run external standards-based content,

then the Sakai 3 tools will need the features anticipated by the relevant

standards. For SCORM and IMS CP this is relatively simple, but for IMS

Learning Design (LD), this brings some additional features that you might

not build into the Sakai 3 tools natively.



In Learning Design, an instructor can create a sequence of learning

activities which include embedded instructions and tool configurations that

are central to the pedagogical intent of the sequence (eg, "At Step 2, show

a forum with a thread named 'Your initial reflections on climate change' and

allow students only one posting of no more than 500 words").



As the key goal of Learning Design is to be able to share effective designs

among instructors (including at different locations), what you want is for

your tools to be able to "receive" these kinds of "tool instantiation

directions" about their behaviour, and self-configure accordingly.



So if I build a Climate Change sequence for my course that includes a Step 2

like the one above, then I export this sequence and share it with an

instructors at another institutions, when they load it into their LMS, the

hope is that the tools in their LMS are able to self-configure accordingly.



The problem is that most LMS tools were not built with the idea that they

could be configured by some external process - so they don't know how to

receive the command "set up a thread with the name "Your initial

reflection...".



Going further, there may be functional requirements for the tools that a re

expected by the Learning Design, like limit the Forum posting to only one

post of no more than 500 words. If the LMS tools lack these features, then

part of the design may be lost when transferred.



Those of you who know our work on LAMS will be aware we've worked on these

problems for many years now, and they are not simple. My key observation for

Sakai 3 here is for tool developers to think about the kind of generic

features that a tool needs to support, and whether these features include

the ability to be configured by a separate process.



For those who are interested, we got all this to work with Moodle tools

running with LAMS, even to the point of having Moodle tools pass data to

LAMS (such as quiz scores) which LAMS is able to use to make decision (eg,

branching). More details and animations at

http://wiki.lamsfoundation.org/display/lams/Moodle+Tool+Adapter



Hope this helps!



James



-----Original Message-----

From: pedagogy-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org

[mailto:pedagogy-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of John Norman

Sent: Friday, 27 August 2010 11:56 PM

To: Hugo Jacobs

Cc: Teaching & Learning Sakai Group; Sakai Dev List

Subject: Re: [DG: Teaching & Learning] Fwd: SCORM in Sakai



This would be my preference for several reasons.



But I also think our design process needs to include a review of native

formats in other open-source projects in case interoperability via

interchange standards causes useful concepts to be lost unnecessarily... We

should also use the experience to feed back at least to IMS.



John



On 25 Aug 2010, at 16:20, Hugo Jacobs wrote:



> Hi all,

> [...]

> For Sakai 3 it might be a different matter. Instead of playing SCORM, IMS

CC, IMS LD we could regard it as an exchange format,.. and play the content

natively with Sakai tools in all their glory.

> Parties who want to import a CC, SCORM, LD learning component should build

a bridging module. Same goes for export of components in these formats

(depending if you would regard Sakai as an authoring and staging

environment)



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