[WG: I18N & L10N] Mexican Spanish issue

[Matthew Jones]

I honestly would say that's this it's unacceptable to have no default es
language. What you're saying is the same as if the US community said that
we wanted to move all of the English translations from en to en_US and then
have no default fallback language at all in Sakai. That just doesn't make
any sense at all and it wouldn't happen. As it would break also break
people who are overriding Australia, Canada, New Zealand, South Africa and
UK.

It just isn't a good solution for the community.

If you could somehow change how java does the fallback to go es_* -> es_ES
-> es then that sounds okay, but I don't know how to do that.


On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Miguel Carro Pellicer <miguel at educlever.es
> wrote:

>  Hi all,
>
> All the spanish community voted to move from "es" to "es_ES" in order to
> avoid conflicts and maintain locales separately, that's why we have done
> the changes.
>
> Miguel.
>
> El 29/05/2014 17:49, Matthew Jones escribió:
>
> Right, the java locale fallback would be to go
>
>  es_MX -> es -> en
>
>  So without an es the text is just appearing in English. I'd personally
> be happy with either keeping es_ES in sync or just making your files from
> es_ES the default as es and not having an es_ES variation. You could still
> select es_ES from the translation menu in preferences but it would just
> immediately fallback to es. That would eliminate having to do changes twice
> at least. Whatever you decide though.
>
>  I think it would be good just in-case other Spanish countries like
> es_CO, es_PR or es_AR, etc decide they also want to support a language with
> only slight variations, for instance. :)
>
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Diego del Blanco Orobitg <
> diego.delblanco.sakai at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>>
>>  As now Spanish (from Spain) is "es_ES" and not "es" (as some time ago),
>> when there is not "es_MX" it uses the default (that is english) . I think
>> before that "es_MX" searched for "es" when there is not "es_MX" file
>> (please, if I'm wrong someone can correct me).
>>
>> So, maybe other solution can be duplicate all the "es_ES" files to "es"
>> and have it as basis for all the spanish translations. better than mix
>> es_ES with es_MX becuase if we do that, México people won't know what is
>> missing or not to translate
>>
>>  The problem can be to maintain "es" and "es_ES" because we will need to
>> do changes twice... or always duplicate files when we change in "es_ES"...
>>
>>
>> 2014-05-29 8:29 GMT-07:00 Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>:
>>
>>  Hi i18n,
>>>
>>> I found a major regression in that Mexican Spanish in 10.0 mostly shows
>>> English, except for a few places.
>>>
>>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-26268
>>>
>>> FYI - the team is working quickly to get out an 10.0-RC01 (like in the
>>> next day or so) , and while i18n issues are not normally considered
>>> blockers, it would be nice to get this one fixed ASAP.
>>>
>>> One option could be to hide the es_MX translations in 10.0 until it is
>>> fixed.
>>>
>>> I guess another could be to copy es_ES (Spain) over to es_MX , except
>>> for the few es_MX properties that exist.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Neal
>>>
>>>
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