[gradebook2-dev] Dropped students grades kept?

[Geng, Kelly]

Hi Jon,

We use Sakora-CSV to populate the enrollment data, which as far as I know does not drop users from any tables other than the CM tables. Also, the student was only dropped from 1 course and was still enrolled in a few other course sites, which is also the evidence that any user data should have been intact.

I'm wondering whether in any case GB2 will do any kind of purge, because the student record was not found in the GB_ACTION_RECORD table, which in another incident of student dropping was found. And do you also write any event to sakai_events table?

Thanks!
Kelly


-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Gorrono [mailto:jpgorrono at ucdavis.edu] 
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 12:28 AM
To: Geng, Kelly
Cc: Thomas Amsler; gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
Subject: Re: [gradebook2-dev] Dropped students grades kept?

Hi, Kelly,

One thing to keep in mind is that if the process that you have for dropping students from enrollments includes removing the students from either the user table or the sakai_user_id_map table and/or removing them from being resolvable via the UserDirectoryService (via UserDirectoryProvider), then the grades for (or the mere existence of) those students will (IIRC) be hidden from GB2.

So before trying to nail down an obscure (and possibly non-existent) bug in GB2, I would make sure that the integrity of the data that identifies that student remains.

Can you comment on that?

Thanks,
Jp


On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Geng, Kelly <gengx at muohio.edu> wrote:
> GB2 developers,
>
> Do you have any findings on this issue about a dropped student losing his grades? I have been trying to reproduce the grade lost, but have no luck. I tried import/export after the student dropping and restarting the server after the dropping but neither of them will trigger the grades erasing for the student? Can you shed me some light on in what occasions this can happen? Some faculty are concerned about this and we are trying to pin down the reason.
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> Kelly
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geng, Kelly
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:56 PM
> To: 'Thomas Amsler'
> Cc: gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
> Subject: RE: [gradebook2-dev] Dropped students grades kept?
>
> I created ticket https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/GRBK-1154 for this issue.
>
> We have 2 incidents reported. For the first one, the grades were restored from the gradebook history later. But for the second incident, the grades can't be found anywhere. Does import/exporting grades while the student was dropped make any difference?
>
> Thanks,
> Kelly
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Amsler [mailto:tpamsler at ucdavis.edu]
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:34 PM
> To: Geng, Kelly
> Cc: gradebook2-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
> Subject: Re: [gradebook2-dev] Dropped students grades kept?
>
> I don't think GB2 deletes grades in such a case. Please create a GRBK JIRA and provide as much information as possible. Also, did the user use import/export while the student was dropped?
>
> Best,
>
> -- Thomas
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Geng, Kelly <gengx at muohio.edu> wrote:
>> Hi GB2 developers and users,
>>
>>
>>
>> We have this case that a student dropped the class due to financial 
>> liability, and was added back after it clears up. The grades manually 
>> entered in gradebook previously were lost. I went into the database 
>> and didn't find any trace of the student. Does gb2 delete all the 
>> grades when the student is dropped from the class?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kelly
>>
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