[Contrib: Evaluation System] My Evaluations list getting really long

Adam Marshall adam.marshall at oucs.ox.ac.uk
Thu Aug 11 07:49:37 PDT 2011


We will certainly circulate (& commit) a fix when we have one, don't hold your breath though or you'll faint!

adam

> -----Original Message-----
> From: evaluation-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:evaluation-
> bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Verity Allan
> Sent: 11 August 2011 15:15
> To: evaluation at collab.sakaiproject.org
> Subject: Re: [Contrib: Evaluation System] My Evaluations list getting really
> long
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I don't know of a fix for this; I can unfortunately confirm that it will
> become impossible to load the surveys in the Evaluation System tool in the
> Admin Workspace, as it will time out. We have well over 10,000 surveys
> now, and while we can administer the options using the 'Administrate'
> link, the 'My Surveys' link is a no-no. (And during peak survey times, My
> Current Surveys has hundreds of surveys in and takes ages to load.)
> 
> This does mean that the only way of finding out about certain surveys is
> to use the 'become user' tool to 'become' the person who's running the
> survey. This is a bit of a pain, but does mean that you can do some
> troubleshooting via the UI, rather than via the DB.
> 
> I can see that users might well want to look at last year's surveys, but
> that does leave us with this problem in the Admin Workspace. Maybe
> implementing paging of the results would help?
> 
> So, while there's a certain amount you can achieve by workarounds, it's
> pretty inconvenient, and we'd be interested in testing a fix, should
> someone come up with one. (We don't currently have time to work on one
> ourselves.)
> 
> Regards,
> Verity
> CamTools Helpdesk
> CARET, University of Cambridge
> 
> > Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:49:47 +0100
> > From: Adam Marshall <adam.marshall at oucs.ox.ac.uk>
> > Subject: Re: [Contrib: Evaluation System] My Evaluations list getting
> > 	really long
> > To: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
> > Cc: evaluation <evaluation at collab.sakaiproject.org>
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> > We're not that bothered about clearing out data. It's the number of items
> on the 'admin' user 'my surveys' page. It is taking 3-4 minutes to load and I'm
> soon that we'll soon see a time out.
> >
> > adam
> >
> > From: Jim Eng [mailto:jimeng at umich.edu]
> > Sent: 11 August 2011 14:37
> > To: Adam Marshall
> > Cc: Paul Dagnall; evaluation
> > Subject: Re: [Contrib: Evaluation System] My Evaluations list getting really
> long
> >
> > We have a different situation than most schools, because our evals are
> imported from an external system and administered in Sakai, and the
> responses are exported back to the external system, through which results
> are reported back to instructors and others.  After the responses are
> exported, we delete the data from Sakai, using SQL scripts.
> >
> > There are dangers inherent in keeping old eval data inside Sakai, so we now
> get rid of it as soon as possible after each term ends.
> >
> > That may not match other people's needs, especially if users need to refer
> to results long after an eval closes and there is no external system for
> archiving and reporting historic data.
> >
> > I would advise that you clean out the old data as early as possible, which
> would solve the problem you mentioned.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 11, 2011, at 5:38 AM, Adam Marshall wrote:
> >
> >
> > I don't know any way of doing this but for us this is getting to be an issue.
> >
> > We were thinking of doing some work to address this, eg, by default, only
> display surveys from the last 3 months and have a date range selector at the
> top of the page. As a first stage I think we now display the surveys in reverse
> chronological order.
> >
> > If somebody else has a patch or is intending to do some work then that
> would probably suit us?
> >
> > To be honest I cant see us having any time to do this in the next 3-4
> months.
> >
> > adam
> >
> > From: evaluation-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:evaluation-
> bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org> [mailto:evaluation-
> bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Paul Dagnall
> > Sent: 09 August 2011 18:23
> > To: evaluation
> > Subject: [Contrib: Evaluation System] My Evaluations list getting really long
> >
> > Hi
> > Are there any settings that can be used to control how long the "My
> Evaluations" list gets? Other than deleting them I don't see a way to trim the
> list of old Closed Evaluations.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Paul Dagnall
> > Web Developer
> > University of Dayton
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