[cle-release-team] 2.9.x: branch management update

[Aaron Zeckoski]

Neither, see the beginning of this thread.
-AZ


On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Steve Swinsburg
<steve.swinsburg at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok. So are you using log4j or slf4j currently?
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Aaron Zeckoski <azeckoski at unicon.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> "Should" doesn't equal "does" unfortunately.
>> EB registers providers from all over the place including from within
>> components and within webapps (so it holds weak references to classes
>> from lots of classloaders). It uses a similar technique for keeping
>> track of the various internal bits and optional overrides as well.
>> The bottom line is that when I tried to use commons logging, it held
>> open the classloaders so EB could not shutdown and I got the wrong
>> copies of classes sometimes. Either way, I gave up trying to solve
>> that back in 2007. Maybe things are better these days but I will leave
>> that as something for someone else to prove as I spent far too many
>> hours on it.
>>
>> I'll note that everything worked fine if slf4j was used but sadly,
>> this is not the case in Sakai.
>> -AZ
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Steve Swinsburg
>> <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Something isn't right then. You should be able to log from the webapp
>> > without classloader issues due to child-first, and you should be able to log
>> > from the impl fine also. I thought it might be some odd setup that EB had?
>> >
>> > Most/all other tools can log fine in this manner.
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On 28/03/2013, at 9:01, Aaron Zeckoski <azeckoski at unicon.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Pretty much all the issues indicated in that link.
>> >> -AZ
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Steve Swinsburg
>> >> <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> What's the actual issue you are facing with JCL?
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers
>> >>> S
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>> >>> On 28/03/2013, at 5:53, Aaron Zeckoski <azeckoski at unicon.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> For the EB uses, I cannot use the logger we normally use because of
>> >>>> the issues with JCL and classloaders.
>> >>>> http://articles.qos.ch/classloader.html
>> >>>> Not sure about the other projects.
>> >>>> -AZ
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Anthony Whyte <arwhyte at umich.edu>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> Summary of 2.9.x branch management activities since Friday, 22
>> >>>>> March.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> merged = 20
>> >>>>> to merge = 13
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> of these
>> >>>>> merge conflicts encountered = 4
>> >>>>> merge postponed until question is answered = 1
>> >>>>> merge held up after code review = 1 [1]
>> >>>>> ticket missing info (i.e., trunk revision number) = 1
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> cheers,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Anth
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> [1] (SAK-22390 portal, log object vs System.err.println; we have a
>> >>>>> log
>> >>>>> object although after grepping CLE source a few projects such as EB,
>> >>>>> LB,
>> >>>>> portal, rwiki and samigo use System.err.println (174 instances) so I
>> >>>>> can
>> >>>>> hardly claim to be enforcing a rule, perhaps not even a best
>> >>>>> practice with
>> >>>>> respect to those projects.)
>> >>>>>
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