[cle-release-team] [sakai-pmc] Two new features for Sakai 10

[John Bush]

I have some concerns about Mathjax, SAK-22384.  Not so much about including
it in Sakai 10 but how its implemented, I'll put my comments in the jira.





On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org> wrote:

> Looping in sakai-dev list.
>
> Hi Sakai-dev,
>
> see a proposal from last week (before the deadline) for two Jiras to be
> included in Sakai 10, SAK-25371 and SAK-22384 . And some initial comments
> on these issues.
>
> Please chime in ASAP. Would like to wrap this up this week.
>
> See below.
>
> Thanks,
> Neal
>
>
>   Matthew Jones <matthew at longsight.com>
>  December 17, 2013 at 5:02 PM
> I agree, not as big as an audience. I've already made comments on these
> specific tickets but will just summarize them.
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Kirschner, Beth <bkirschn at umich.edu>
>  wrote:
>
>> I'd like to propose 2 new features for Sakai 10:
>>
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-25371 - Add Optional Print
>> option to Resources "Action" menu. Requires minor kernel change. We're
>> currently testing this feature, which will require institutions to
>> implement a provider to make it active.
>>
>
> Sounds good, just my previous comments on the ticket. It would be nice if
> there was a brief document (confluence or README?) that has a sample of how
> someone else could take advantage of writing a end service for it. Ideally
> it would be an active test running somewhere that QA could connect so we
> could avoid regression. Like how we can easily test LTI functionality on
> appspot is pretty great (http://simplelti.appspot.com/test.htm). Even if
> it just connects and writes out some debugging information, would provide a
> great example.
>
>
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22384 - Add MathJax (finally).
>> Looks like Waterloo has something in production that needs to be reviewed &
>> merged back to trunk when available.
>>
>
> Yea, I'm not sure about this. The patch seems incomplete (no sample skins?
> no info about what from MathJax to install) and I'm still not convinced
> scanning the entire DOM for TeX is a always good. I for sure would need to
> be constrained to this skin but would be better if it just scanned specific
> divs. Mathjax can do this but the user would have to know what class id's
> to put in (either through a simple plugin that would wrap it or some other
> docs? I wonder how much of a demand there is now for that anymore with
> fMath included in 2.9 and many places still using Wiris? The only people
> who'd be writing plain TeX are Math/Engineering professors, and they can
> paste that into the fMath editor and get out an image. I wouldn't be
> against it as long as it didn't require that full 30MB+ MathJax package to
> run. Maybe some more details about the what's required.
>
>
>
>   Anthony Whyte <arwhyte at umich.edu>
>  December 17, 2013 at 4:33 PM
> Yup, proposals such as this should be vetted on the sakai-dev list.
>
> anthony whyte | its and mlibrary | university of michigan |
> arwhyte at umich.edu | 517-980-0228
>
>
>
>
>   Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
>  December 17, 2013 at 3:29 PM
>  Hi,
>
> I haven't seen any comments on this proposal yet. Also, I notice that
> sakai-dev has not been copied. I presume that we should copy in sakai-dev
> list and put an ending date for comments?
>
> FWIW, SAK-25371 seems like it would be a nice function and would be okay
> with me if it is okay with the folks who know the kernel code well. Also
> seems like this is a manageable thing to QA test.
>
> I don't know much about MathJax but it seems like math and science folks
> would love to have Latex support built-in to the editor. This doesn't seem
> like a really big change to Sakai from a technical perspective?
>
> Thanks,
> Neal
>
>
>
>   Kirschner, Beth <bkirschn at umich.edu>
>  December 12, 2013 at 5:22 PM
> I'd like to propose 2 new features for Sakai 10:
>
> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-25371 - Add Optional Print
> option to Resources "Action" menu. Requires minor kernel change. We're
> currently testing this feature, which will require institutions to
> implement a provider to make it active.
>
> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22384 - Add MathJax (finally).
> Looks like Waterloo has something in production that needs to be reviewed &
> merged back to trunk when available.
>
> - Beth
>
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